[Kirkland]

Kirkland, when I said Google it I didn't mean I get my information from facebook or youtube lol, there are official reports and data available on the internet for anyone to read and Dr Sherri Tenpenny is a physician who often speaks at seminars about vaccines and vaccine injury (amoung other topics).

Everything on the internet should be looked at in a negative light until the sources of that site can be verified. Some of the sites you used had no sources which I could verify and well alternative medicine web sites do have ulterior motives especially when it comes to taking on big pharmaceutical companies.

The death of any child for whatever reason is sad I agree, however there ARE children dying or being left brain damaged after being given a vaccine and that has been proven, as for the statistics from the CDC, accoring to them 36,000 Americans die each year from Flu but that just isn't true, here for example in the British Medical Journal it shows how those figures are made up and its all about selling vaccines. http://thinktwice.com/BMJ_Flu.pdf

I'll agree that lots of drugs in America are unproven in their effectiveness however here in the UK all drugs and vaccines have to go through NICE for investigation into their benefits, risks and cost. If they were not effective surely NICE would not approve them.

[keakahona]

Actually it has been approved by the EMEA not NICE, and on their website they state regarding one of the vaccines .....

**Focetria is a vaccine. It is a suspension for injection that contains parts (‘surface antigens’) of the influenza (flu) virus. It contains a flu strain called A/California/7/2009 (H1N1)v like strain (X-179A).

Focetria has been authorised under ‘Exceptional Circumstances’. This means that it has not yet been possible to obtain full information about the pandemic vaccine. Every year, the European Medicines Agency will review any new information that may become available and this summary will be updated as necessary.

The company that makes Focetria will collect information on the safety of the vaccine while it is being used. This will include information on its side effects and its safety in children, pregnant women, patients with severe conditions and people who have problems with their immune systems.

Focetria should not be given to patients who have had an anaphylactic reaction (severe allergic reaction) to any of the components of the vaccine, or to any substances found at trace levels in the vaccine, such as egg or chicken protein, ovalbumin (a protein in egg white), kanamycin or neomycin sulphate (antibiotics), formaldehyde, cetyltrimethylammonium bromide and polysorbate 80. However, it may be appropriate to give the vaccine to these patients during a pandemic, as long as facilities for resuscitation are available.**

So has it been fully tested, errmmm nope !!

blessings
Jacky xx

[wordavee]

Anyone who quotes David Icke as some sort of creditable authority on anything has to be dismissed as a poor source of information. Here are some of the predictions made by him.

Mr. Icke declared that “disruptive thought vibrations” originating with the Sicilian Mafia and the Tiananmen Square massacre in China had combined to set in motion a cataclysm that would first be evidenced when Mount Rainier in the United States would explode. No date was given. This would be followed, he said, by the complete disappearance of New Zealand, the collapse of the Channel Tunnel, the fall of Naples Cathedral, and an unspecified failure of the Texas oil fields.
By Christmas 1991, Mr. Icke predicted, Cuba, Greece, the Isle of Arran, the cliffs of Kent, and Teeside would be hit by a great earthquake (8.0 on the Richter scale) that would submerge them.
Mr. Icke has since stated that at the time he made these predictions he knew they were crazy.

Icke's undated, unsubstantiated and vague so called "predictions" may have come "true" in a coincidal way, but as can be seen by the "predictions " above, anyone can make a whole raft of guesses which may come true in some way, but to base a belief system on him is idiotic.

Let us not forget :-
In 1999, he published The Biggest Secret, in which he wrote that the Illuminati are a race of reptilian humanoids known as the Babylonian Brotherhood, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie.

[Nat]

Long time no see wordavee

Nat xxx

[Datin]

The H1N1 vaccine has been given to many children in US. No deaths and no problems so far. However, we are now out of the vaccine and it is running rampant. I heard this morning it just got to NY. There are no vaccines left and people are lining up with it becasuse hospitals are full and schools are closing so it won't spread to other children and the community . It is true that most of the older ones that die from it have other complications, but the children that are dying from it don't. I again advise reading the book " The Hot Zone" which tells how dangerous it is when a virus jumps species.
Loves ya Keaks xxxx

[Kirkland]

I've been busy the last two weeks but I agree with the above statement. Though right now there is a lot of fear circulating here in the UK and in Germany I believe.

[Datin]

It was just announced on the news that the H1N1 virus has jumped species again and has been found in a house cat, It is believed that it was passed to the cat by it's owner. If your cat is coughing and sneezing and wheezing, CALL THE VET, not only to cure your beloved human companion, but also to stop it from spreading it to other cats and humans. If you come down with swine flu, make sure you take precaustions around your beloved little furries xxxxxx

[LukimusMaximu]

I was doing a little bit of research on the components of the vaccine the other day. I made a little list with some brief explanations of what some of the ingredients are used for or associated with.It's by no means a scientific paper but some of the things on there do get me thinking. If you disagree with it then please let me know.

CHEMICAL INDEX

Alpha-Tocopherol (Synthetic vitamin E derived from petroleum products)

Aluminum Adjuvant (linked to Gulf War Syndrome)

AS03 Adjuvant (trade name for squalene based immunologic adjuvant used by GlaxoSmithKline)

Daronrix (couldn't find any literature related to this)

Disodium Phosphate (used commercially as an anti-caking additive in powdered products)

Formaldehyde (used to preserve dead bodies)

Magnesium Chloride (used in the manufacture of textiles, paper, fireproofing agents, cement)

Octoxynol 10 (a detergent. Detergents and emulsifiers promote tumors and cause cells to leak or explode by weakening their walls, with no mechanism for regulating destructive activity)

Polysorbate 80 (can affect your immune system and cause severe anaphylactic shock which can kill)

Potassium Chloride (mainly used for making fertiliser)

Potassium Dihydrogen Phosphate (if ingested can cause abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhoea, nausea)

Sodium Chloride (salt)

Sodium Deoxycholate (bile acid)

Squalene (used as a skin moisturiser in cosmetics, also linked to Gulf War Syndrome)

Thiomersal (49% mercury by weight)

Vitamin E

(ed) I do realise that lower levels of some ingredients may have no adverse effects. By rights if you eat too much chocolate it can poison you. So having no idea of the amounts of each component that go into making the vaccine I've assumed higher levels have gone into it than would normally be permitted as the 'pandemic' has come about rather quickly and the vaccine may have been rushed to market by request of certain government bodies.

[mauriemw]

Originally Posted by Mizz Phytt

I am waiting for the H1N1 to be "CPT Tripps" which was the virus from the movie The Stand...Then I might be worried. The vaccine is a crock as far as I see it as of now. That's my view.

Good post Mizz Phytt! agree 100%. Makes me wonder what people especially the 'positives'the 'enablers' who like a ostrich will stick their head in the intellectual sand , expecting to escape the danger THAT FOR THEM FOR A SHORT TIME in their imagination wont affect them
. WHAT DO THEY THINK THE BIO WEAPONS DIVISIONS OF BIG PHARMO DO WITH THE DISEASES VIRAL BACTERIAL, MYCOPLASMA, ECT ECT THAT THEY CREATE.?? PUT THEM ON A SHELF LIKE A VASE , OR PUT A LIGHT ON THEM LIKE A PAINTING , AND JUST LOOK AT THEM? breath takingly niave!!
If someone hasn't got the intellect , interest, or strength of character to 'see'. a million posts will not be enough!
all the best to you.

[NICE]

Thalidomide victims win £20m payout and government apology


Don't really have to add anything here!!


x daz x