[Emm]

It is known that not only the US used LSD in interrogation, but the Canadian Government (my country) used LSD experimentallly on men, women and children over the decades too. I suggest that governments, globally, have used drugs, experimental and otherwise on prisoners, military and civilians on a regular and frequent basis. Remote viewing, psychic assassination, hypnosis, all governments are guilty of using whatever method will gain them the results they desire regardless of the welfare of those they question.

This is the world of the lower reality...those still encased in the cocoon run by the ego's need to be in control and have defense against everything.

Wouldn't it be nice if all officials had to subsist on a high-vibration diet and practise meditation and mental discipline? As we know when a person reaches a certain vibrational level they cannot do harm as it is no longer a necessity nor a consideration.

Miranda rights can be waived when a person demands it. A person can be badgered or tricked into waiving Miranda. There is also the USA Patriot Act, 2001, which impedes a person's right to Miranda if a terroist suspect.

Emm

[sweethoney]

Hi yes i have heard the amercia use the LSD and Remote viewing to get information and spy other countries. i m sure another countries done the same things as the amercia for example the russia !.

[johannabartley]

I don't wanna be the one to start a new conspiracy so I'll tell you what others think about drugs: the government has developed some of the drugs we see on the street today. Don't know if only for interrogations, like LSD, or for creating chaos and giving the police one more problem so people won't notice what's really going on. What do you all think?

[Illbewaiting]

I really don't see what the benefits of using that specific drug over others. LSD is a powerful mind altering drug but its not really a drug that would make you spill the beans unless they give it to you then really mess with you until you crack. I'm pretty sure there are other drugs out there that would take all the work out of it and just make them talk although probably less fun.

[Niesa]

I can't imagine that the government would be stupid enough to use LSD or PCP to get the truth out of anyone, as neither drug would be a good choice in doing so. People on LSD believe they can ride a rainbow and monkeys can fly, so right, you would want to take what they say at face value. I don't think so.

Anyone on PCP usually experience a bad case of paranoia (one good reason they wouldn't spill their guts while on the drug) and could effectively rip your head off at a moments notice (they also experience superhuman strength).

But then again, it is the government and they did hand out LSD in the first place! :roll:

[skmystic]

Just in my opinion i do not really see the benifit of the U.S.A. using a drug like L.S.D. as they already know that it would be highly unreliable from other tests that they have carried out in the past...It seems more likely to me that they may have broken him down mentally , then after having compartmentalised his mind they then implanted a sort of posthypnotic suggestion that he had been administered the said drug too hide the truth of what they had really done too him...Or it could be a very clever form of defense in a court of law?.

[The Addictions]

obviously none of you know the affects of LSD or how a person acts on it.
Taking LSD does not make a person free and be able to talk and say whatever they feel, if you believe they used LSD to do that I am sure that you are wrong. LSD is a hallucination drug, basically besides hallucinating you are thinking of so much stuff at one given moment you have no concentration what so ever. You could have a great speach thought out and if you were on LSD, you'd start the speech and two seconds later you'd forget the whole thing and start on a new subject. The thoughts basically attack you all at once, resulting not only as hallucinating but mentally breaking down someone and making them go crazy.

Now, if you wanted someone to tell the truth and not care. I believe you are talking about MDMA, under the influence of MDMA you are mentally not aware of your surroundings and dont care what you do/or say as you are put into a state of peace for about 4 to 5 hours. But, i dont believe they would use MDMA to make someone tell the truth, as it is very obvious, and you must be under the influence of the drug at the time you are being asked questions.

So for the use of LSD, i find that VERY very hard.

[ThePsychic]

I once saw a poster many years ago in London. It was for the latest Superman film. Someone had drawn an L and a D either side of his picture.... and added a couple of extra words to the caption. It then read - "Take LSD and you'll believe a man can fly". LOL

Sorry for going off topic a little - couldn't resist a little humor (well, I hope it was funny ;) ).

Do I believe they are using LSD as thought in this tread - nope... sorry...

Take care
The Psychic

[karen1977]

Originally Posted by Paulm

Almost forgot Yes the US did use LSD on there own men.
And so to did the British army.

Some people go crazy some go lazy some go talkative,as in talk to kettles tv's plate's et et.

The truth can be gained, i believe from a person on LSD,ACID et et and also body language is more perseeved and understood hard to hide i mean. As they say actions speek louder than word.

And some form the hippy movement- Timothy Leary was one of the original test subjects- backfired a bit there & for that reason, i doubt they're using LSD in interrogations. If they did, all they'd get is a load of people giggling, waving their hands in front of their faces going 'whooooa check out the trail backs', long winded speeches about how at one with nature they were & a request for opal fruits!!!
However, i did read something a while back about chemists testing LSD, as they had a theory that it may help schitzophrenics handle their symptoms better. LSD splits the mind in quite a similar way to schitzophrenia & they think maybe because of this it could have a therapeutic effect on sufferers. This is quite ironic, as it is widely known that prolonged use or excessive quantities can actually cause schitzoid illnesses. This has been documented for years, the most famous case i can think of is Sid Barrat, one time singer-songwriter of Pink Floyd. He was once a beacon of creativity, a butterfly, but his hedonism was the undoing of him. I heard he took 100 tabs in one sitting & freaked so badly his so-called friends locked him in a wardrobe because he was 'bringing them down'. Not actually sure of the accuracy of this story, maybe he didn't actually take as many as 100, maybe his friends didn't really lock him up. It is a fact, however that he was hospitalised not long after, following a complete mental breakdown. He lived out the rest of his days in his mother's home, a recluse & died a few years back.
It's important to mention that LSD would'nt turn all people schitzo- only those who have the genetic marker. You are born with schitzophrenia, scientist now know this. It lies dormant in your genes until something possibly activates it. Alcohol abuse, drug abuse, domestic violence or trauma can all trigger the gene & it has to surface between the ages of 16 and 33- if you have reached 33 and present no symptoms, you never will. Meaning that LSD,rather than being the root of the illness, is in actual fact just the catalyst.
I really cant see any government using this method as for every confession(which couldn't be taken seriously), there will be a mind opened wide & a fit of giggles. One in three isn't what i'd call an effective method. Besides, that's what sodium pentathal's used for, the so-called 'truth serum'.

[Warwick]

The use of drugs by the military is not always disastrous. The famous "Christmas Truce" od 1914, during the Great War, was not caused by goodwill or rum - it was the result of the Germans issuing doses of MDMA (aka 'ecstasy'or 'E') to their troops on Xmas day. This was to cheer them up, make them deel warm, and get rid of their hunger - it worked very well indeed, and caused the very first 'Rave' in a way.

One wonders if it would not have been a good idea to use this substance in gaseous form, rather than mustard gas... "Oh What a Lovely War" might have had a very different meaning.