[chp]

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Is U.S. Government Using LSD for Interrogations?

Old-fashioned journalists have a term for bizarre, interesting and/or disturbing little articles -- "Hey Mabel" stories, they call them. And the New York Sun's Josh Gerstein had a doozy of a "Hey Mabel" in yesterday's paper. In a new court filing on behalf of alleged dirty bomber Jose Padilla, his lawyers allege that government interrogators forced him to take LSD, Gerstein reported. "Additionally, Padilla was given drugs against his will, believed to be some form of lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) or phencyclidine (PCP), to act as a sort of truth serum during his interrogations," he quotes the filing. Now, There are some important details that aren't explained: Padilla's lawyers don't say what effects the prisoner reported to make them conclude it was LSD or PCP, nor do they report how many times such a drug or drugs were administered. And as any self-respecting child of the D.A.R.E era knows, LSD and PCP typically produce wildly different behavior (neither of which is particularly helpful if you're trying to get information out of someone). Still -- if their charge is accurate, it's disturbing and bizarre. Of course, the U.S. government pioneered research into LSD in particular in the 1950s and 60s.

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[Sibyl]

Are we not getting a little political here?

[chp]

Are we not getting a little political here?

But hard not to get a little bit political with a Conspiracies Forum! Though I take your point.

[mrparanormal]

No offence meant but given the reports I read on the web everyday that sounded more everyday than Hey Mabel.
Still whether the report is true or not should take a long time to come out. given the treatment of afghanistans by us that we had captured in war. It would not surprise me if it were true.

Are they prescribing it on the NHS now or am I getting maself a wee bit confused again ?

[Shannygragger]

Is U.S. Government Using LSD for Interrogations?

They certainly used to.

Have a Google for the charming little mental torture procedure called MK Ultra. This is not some flight of fancy or a hysterical figment of some conspiracy theorist's mind. The records of two US Senate committees into the CIAs involvement are there for all to see.

[Paulm]

Very interesting topic.

In my opinion i do believe they are, as for me the best way surly in this day and age with rules of engagment and the rules of the red cross.

To physicals beat and torture a person would leave brusings and scars let alone the the indaviduals accounts of the torture cleare in his/her mind.

So the use of L.S.D or any other form of drug which would enduce and allow you to talk freely like allowing you inabition to go free.

Make's sence to me.

To firstly starve the prisoners of sleep untill they are almost in a state of halucinasion.Then administer a drug.

And after they have been finneshed with allow them to sleep.I dont think they will remember a thing, Although they may feel as if something has happend.
Or do i just have a sick mind/Over imaganative one :shock:

[Paulm]

Almost forgot Yes the US did use LSD on there own men.
And so to did the British army.

Some people go crazy some go lazy some go talkative,as in talk to kettles tv's plate's et et.

The truth can be gained, i believe from a person on LSD,ACID et et and also body language is more perseeved and understood hard to hide i mean. As they say actions speek louder than word.

[Nat]

What I find ironic - if this is true - is that people can plead 'diminished capacity' to get off lighter in court if they have been on drugs, but a government can alledgedly use it to establish guilt in the first place. Hello, ... ain't that backwards? Dunno, never been an acid tripper ... but if it can be a defense, how much weight does a confession under it's influence actually hold?

Nat xxx

[Paulm]

Well the Military are a law unto them selves. Just look at recent report on terrorist being held buy the US Military and being taken to secrete Interigaition camp.????

But this is a stuctured over look at the technices used.

Interrogation is the professional police and military technique of interviewing people, often without their consent, in order to obtain information regarding crimes or military operations.

Interrogation may involve humiliation, intimidation and physical abuse to "soften up" the person interviewed.

A well-conducted interrogation is not torture, which in practice is widely known to be ineffective at producing reliable information. Prisoners of war routinely undergo interrogation, which the laws of war permit.

A typical interrogation involves three people:

interviewer
interviewee
notetaker
The interviewer, who asks the questions, typically sits directly face-to-face with the interviewee (the person under interrogation), while the notetaker sits to the side of the interviewee (usually on the interviewee's right-hand side). The notetaker remains out of view of the interviewee and attempts to remain as silent and inconspicuous as possible.

The interviewer usually asks short open-ended questions and attempts to establish a friendly rapport with the interviewee, and speaks with a neutral and sympathetic voice. The notetaker watches the interaction between the interviewer and the interviewee, paying particular attention to behavior and body language.

One notable interrogation technique is the Reid Technique.

Note that no prohibition forbids the interrogator from lying, from making misleading statements or from implying that the interviewee has already been implicated in the crime by someone else. Deception forms an important part of effective interrogation.

However, threats which the interrogator cannot actually carry out are generally ineffective unless the subject is young, inexperienced or terrified.

An important legal protection against interrogation in the United States of America is the right to remain silent and to demand the presence of a lawyer. (See also "Miranda warning".)

Interrogation methods used at Guantanamo Bay for illegal combatants could, with special approval, include sleep deprivation, exposure to extremes of cold and heat, and placing prisoners in "stress positions" for agonizing lengths of time.


So i would think that if you mixed LSD or any othe r mind bending drug with the above then i could work,Iether that or the person being interigated goese around the bend and freaks out.