[chp]

Tree Spirits: Ghost wants a house to live in or it will harm people

Do you believe in Tree Spirits? According to the Hindu Times the Indian Village of Madanpura are collecting money ?.. for a ghost!

Villagers of Madanpura in Bhind district are in the grip of fear of a wrath from the ghost who has been thrown out of its previous house by a natural storm. The ghost was believed to be formally living on that tree, which has been uprooted, and now he wants a separate house for him to live in.

The villagers are collecting money through donations in order to build a house for the ghost to safeguard their families from his vengeance.

Okay so this may be a little left field but many of our visitors believe that Nature Spirits really do exist. What do you believe? Are there more solid cases that you can cite that go someway to proving that nature spirits and tree spirits exist?

[squirrel]

I personaly feel this is more an individual thing, for peoples to belive in.
many of the older belifes from many tribes all over the world, like native americans, aborignes,african tribes and as well as druids, belive all living beeings on this earth plain has a spirit and do feel.
scientes hasnt totaly prove that they do have a soul or spirit, what they have done has mesured the magnetic energy that
plants have and when they cut a stem of a plant off the mesurment of electronic mesure ment had risen quiet abit.
this saying that do react to some sort of psyical changes the plant has.
even in spiritulist books and teachings when they discribe there suroundings or when they come through some saying that they are gardners in spirit and help with the plants. so if this is the case does this mean that plant spirits can go to spirit :?:
or is this becuse spirit has no bounds and manifest plants and trees in spirit :?:
we know that animals go to spirit so why not trees :?:
and as for trees spirit making demands to be rehoused, ummm either some one has having these poor peoples on as we know why would any form of spirit hurt any one :?: as we know and tault through spiritulisum that no spirit can do any harm to any one.
to be honest I think defantly some one having a scam on these poor peoples I think they should, get asecond opion on this matter.
once again peoples puting fear where there isnt any fear.
I have known wiccans and druids ask trees permission to either to take some thing from it or to remove it and leave a gift to say thanks to the tree spirit.
hehehehe I wounder about these tree huggers lol saying that I suposse if has a pulse and breaths and has energy its alive
once again I think it is down to apersonal belife and I realy dont think tree spirit would give threats and hurt peoples either.
(reminds me the book by jr tolkens lord of the rings tree beard and rest of the tree hurders )lol couldnt resist that one :wink:
squirrel

I hate to admit this but I am a tree hugger. I often feel compelled to reach out and touch trees, rocks and plants. Mainly to see if I can sense an energy. There is a strong pull in the ancient Redwoods. I feel humbled and serene. The thought Grandfather comes to my mind. Not that I could get my arms around them but I feel compelled to put my arms around them when I go there. It is something I don't yet understand. It is like the ocean, I cannot describe the sense of kinship I feel there. It is as if I can feel the waves surging inside my heart....Sue

[MichelleD]

One day while talking to a friend on line he mentioned the energy that he felt from hugging a tree. So I decided to try it and see what happens. Now Growing up in Maine I have been in the woods all my life and never actually took much notice to the trees except for there beauty. So one day I went for a walk in the woods out behind my home, I decided to walk until I felt the need to go near a tree. I opened up my mind and relaxed and walked. About 1 mile into this walk I felt the need to walk over to this big huge tree, as I looked up , it looked like it could almost touch the sky. I went over to it and just put my arms around it. At first I felt nothing and thought silly girl , what are you doing lol. As I stood there I started feeling something like electricity going through my body, like little tingles , the energy that I was feeling was quite amazing. I stood there for a while and then I had a vision of a older man and a little boy. I saw them planting a seed and the man saying when you get big like me this tree will be bigger then us both. Then the vision went away. Now I dont know if this was my imagination or if the tree was giving me this info from its energy? hmmm makes ya wonder doesnt it? I have never been a tree hugger and my hubby is a treeassassin as we call him, he cuts trees down for a living, but after this experience that I experienced I think differently now when I look at a tree

[malachite]

I've always loved trees - as a child I was always swinging from them or sat high in their branches - I love to feel the bark, but dont go as far as hugging them lol. As for tree spirits I personally dont believe in that aspect, but I believe that was where the saying ''touch wood'' comes from, you'd touch wood for luck and the tree spirits/faeries would protect you.

For me I think my love of trees is more symbolic - they can grow to enormous heights, live to a great age, and bend in the strongest gales, they may loose branches but continue to stand tall - all these things I feel can be likened to what we sometimes need to do when the winds of change blow through our lives

[Rossco]

I decided to reply to this in the end.

My psychic profession is a soul rescuer and healer, I've trained with Terry O'Sullivan for many years and occasionally teach/ run workshops at the College of Psychic Studies in London with them...


For normal people, to actually see any visual evidence of this phenomena isn?t hard. It requires a litte effort on the ability to see auras. Which is of value in its own regard. (The methods of which can be found easily on the internet).

When this ability is focused in nature, then all should become apparent. (I do hope some of you take the effort to do this- field experience is much better than words)

When you are next taking a walk try to test this skill on passing wildlife. The aura around birds flying should be fairly easy to see, as it should be around flowers or trees. With Trees you may notice a kind of banding of energetic layers that surrounds them, if you can see this then it is also very likely that you should be able to see the movement of different entities: some tennis ball sized etc. some much larger, initially this may appear more as dense spheroid shapes of energy moving quickly, rather than vivid features. (no doubt over time if you can see this, you will note the distinction between this and ?orbs?)

The tree spirit, is otherwise known as a ?Dryad?. They live in a chamber beneath the tree. The entrance to their residence is at ground level, which is a normal door shape. There is a system of connecting tunnels which they can use if they choose. These entities are human sized: or rather small to average height humans. If you ever decide to encounter one, or have clairvoyant vision you will note that their distinguishing feature is slightly enlarged glassy eyes. Their appearance and dress is human.

The common encounter with these beings is in cities. The reason being, lack of space. As the human race has expanded and encroached on the land: they cut down trees, displacing the tree spirit from its home. Without the trees vivifying force their residence fades from habitability. They search out a new residence.

In cities, as space is at a premium you will find a higher concentration of dryads in the trees. If the Dryad cannot find a new home, then it will look for a substitute. Often it will choose a disused or quiet space. Often this can be a basement or a spare room, not frequented much by humans.

It is at this stage, where the ?land healer? ?space clearer? ?psychic? or whatever you want to call people like me get involved. The Dryad, understandably tends to be somewhat pissed off at his state of affairs, and at the human race in general. Thus, if in a house, they create a bad atmosphere. It can be this, which triggers a ?normal? persons paranormal response ? they feel the place is haunted.

Rather than build the entity a new house, which is what the people in India in the link above did! There is a simpler solution: you simply talk to it and find out how you can help. Commonly, the practice will be then to call another elemental entity higher up in the hierarchy (who should be established as one of your team of spirit guides/helpers) who will make the necessary arrangements for relocation.

Doing the other types of space clearing exercises such as smudging and incense blah blah can be useful after this point. If you don?t remove the root, you?ll just **** it off even more and it will get worse.

Normally there will be other factors involved at a property and normally earthbounds, but usually there is one root cause.

So far I?ve been involved with a handful of cases in London where this has been the main cause, unusual perhaps but worth mentioning nonetheless.

[slumbermaiden]

Weird...I've always thought of tree spirits to simply be folklore, but have to admit, in some ways it makes sense...a tree is alive, it has an energy, it should have a spirit as well....weird to think that a trees spirit would be a trouble maker though...they are so serene...perhaps, in that way they are like people, some are more peaceful than others...I have had certain feelings come over me in wooded areas...my father has a bog on his farm, and I've walked through it...very weird...seems almost alien in landscape, different plants...the ground is thick sponge...probably not a safe place to be walking actually...but I did anyways..cautiously, it was quiet in there, no sounds of birds or insects...and stange..but I had a feeling of being allowed to look...like I was being given permission.

That?s very interesting chp.
I couldn?t help visualising the villagers and imagining the social context in socio/psychological terms. Perhaps the villagers are in need of somewhere to ?store? their ?bad feelings?, and the story suits their needs. Perhaps their needs will be met through their co-operation with each other on a focused goal. My concern for them is that they could be building a ?ghost house? which is like the antithesis of building a church. I?m thinking - how negative could things possibly get where negative energy is stored all in one place. How could that be changed to positive I wonder. Maybe to just suggest a positive switch ?
Maybe we could create a group of people like missionaries, and rush over there to rescue them. Or maybe we could have faith in the Great Spirit that they will find their own way through it. Maybe there is a lot more to the story than is reported. Or a lot less even.
Could be their traditions are in fact more helpful to them than we are aware of.
We only really know what we are aware of, and that gets muddled by conditioned learning.
I hope I can explain my point below.

Rossco: Thank you for deciding to share that with us, I can see why you might hesitate.
What you share here could seem ridiculous in the extreme to any and all who have not had such experiences nor gathered such knowledge.
I respect your experiences, and intend no harm whatever by expressing mine. My aim is just to explore possibilities.
Some of what you say makes sense to me. Fits with what I have previously learned.
What I can?t make sense of, is why would you need to call on higher spirit to help a spirit? If they are indeed higher beings, how would you know what they did not?
Calling people ?normal? seems to infer that you are special. Thereby inferring that ?normal? people are not special, unless they do some work like you have.
Quote ? ?It requires a litte effort on the ability to see auras.?
This seems to assume that everyone perceives visually. That is not my experience from working with young people in schools. Many perceive through touch or sensing, or hearing for example, without a visual reference.

On this ?Angel Forum?, posted in ?Prayers to the Angels?, 31st July06, Colorhart states:
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?It's that good old axoim, that you find what you search for. If you search for evidence that angels don't exist, that's what you'll find, if you search for evidence that they do exist... that's what you will find!?

I can?t help wondering if, at root level, everything boils down to energy. It doesn?t seem improbable to me that energy is stirred by movement, including thoughts (whether true or conditioned irrationally) and creative thoughts. The perceiver would be influenced by those thoughts, thereby, so would the energy.

For example - I personally have a special tree, I ?feel? a connection to it when I am there. The idea of that is comforting, and as I see the aura of the surrounding trees, I revel in the beauty and wonderment of nature I stand in, and meditation becomes a oneness with all, from the good energies I feel from the tree.
Yet the tree looks awesome as I approach, a gigantic oak in a recreation park. I think if I felt negative there, the tree would certainly seem ominous and fearful, as I have seen trees look when visiting unknown areas and felt vulnerable and fearful myself at the time.
This suggests that the state of mind has an effect, my thoughts also affect my feelings.

If others share similar thoughts and experiences, such thoughts are thereby validated and strengthened. Groups are gathered with similar beliefs, strengthening their understanding as they build together on those beliefs. Thereby also strengthening the energy those thoughts influence.

Therefore ? anything is possible !

Survival of the fittest (or strongest energy/thought/belief) also seems probable.
Yet how aware are we in general of what we create as the energy ripples widen?
What if ideas based on empirical evidence went wrong at some stage?
What if ? the history we know as ?knowledge? was only one side of the story, and other information is lost or ignored because it doesn?t fit with a theory?

For example ? Thomas Bell, who ?invented? the telephone according to a dream he had, might have misinterpreted the dream in his waking hours, to fit his own theories on communication. What was his aim? What if he used the excited energy to make a unique creation, thereby making himself an accepted genius? It?s possible from my point of view that the dream symbolically represented the process of telepathy. What if Bell had focussed his energy on telepathy rather than inventing the telephone? What a different world we would have today. lol.

Seems to me that life is whatever you focus on.
The Dalai Lama, as spiritual as he is intelligent, states that the meaning of life is to be happy.
Sounds good to me. Although, - how could we all be happy if some people want adventure, others desire peace, etc, etc, etc.?

Many cultures/groups have their own ?ground rules?. From Righteous Idylls, to Fearful Oppression, and Creative Ideas to Survival Measures. Mostly, whatever suits its leaders.

The bible for one source, tells us that the ten commandments are the root of living well.
Many people know that in the original ?telling?, there were more than ten, but adaptation influences the moral righteous highground.
Can we count how many people: live by good morals, exist in a state of grace, are happy with what they have, have enough resources to live well, have been uninfluenced by ?sin??

I suppose it will take a heck of a long time now to produce Universal Principles, as so many differing groups and individuals have their own ideas of what is right, and fight for their ideals. I have decided to have faith that Universal Principles will involve ?live and let live?, cos the alternative isn?t worth giving a thought to.

One fact that never ceases to amaze me, is that positive thinking, with good intent, based on the energy of love, consistently and effectively works well for all concerned.

Love and light to you.
Jas xxxxxxxxxxx

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[bigmumplum]

I think this is fasinating & would explain a lot of things that happened in a street where I used to live. The houses where built on an old alotment site next door to a cemetary, We were told that the area was also an ancient burial ground but I never saw any factual evidence to support this. There was a lot of unrest in the street and it seemed to move from one house to the next, to the next and back round again (as if something maybe a spirit or tree spirit was looking for somewhere to settle?) I never felt happy there and just couldn't settle myself. We moved away and I am so much at peace now as are the rest of my family. We have an oak tree in the garden at our new house and I feel so relaxed when I am near it. We have made a flower garden next to it with a bench to sit on & hung crystals & windchimes on its branches. Maybe it's because I was just so glad to move and thats why I'm happy here or maybe because there is somewhere for the spirits to rest? I don't know? I do know we weren't the only people to leave the old street and as far I can see there are very few people who stay there for long, It's quite sad though if it is a tree spirit looking for a home I wish I'd planted a tree in the garden now! :cry: I do know there was a tree on the site previous to the houses being there as I heard someone was found hanged there (so maybe the bad feelings were there before the trees were cut down?????) What do others think? :?: