[NICE]

Originally Posted by gazzAB

I do not dismiss what i dont know or believe i question.

IMO we cannot talk to dogs in spirit any more than we can in life

Please dont worry about my progress I can assure my progress is doing fine.

As for locking threads and comments well this one is still open isnt it? I close threads that are of no use and intended to scare or upset people.

I do not question your opinions whether i agree with them or not we are all entitled to an opinion that also inludes me and other moderators on thsi site.

Hi mate - I am sorry to carry on with this but I like things to be clear In my mind

You say that you don't dismiss what u do not know - but on the other hand you say that the information is not true - "that's dimissing" It.
You say that you don't question my opinions - but you ask me 2 prove myself ? for when have I asked you to prove to me that I am wrong? for Instance regarding this thread of a lady's question on having a life on another planet - How can that be when man hasn't been to sirius? you said - Now that is questioning our experience which is fine - but u have just stated to me that you don't question our/my opinions.
In reference to a particular thread that was locked - It was when a person questioned the knowledge of a post that was answered by a moderator
In reference to the spirit dog. All communication In the spirit world Is universal.

I have no problems with people that don't understand or do not want to understand what myself or other people have written - but I shake my head in disagreement when people say that other peoples experiences are not true? How can anyone? That makes no sense?

I have just read another thread regarding another persons experience today & the moderator has said that her experience cannot possibly be true? How on earth can that be said. I am baffled


am sure you are Improving Gaz - I wish 4 u to improve even more with an open mind that's all.

Nat has mentioned in a previous thread that people that speak the truths can be seen as arrogant. I apologize If I come across in that way. I cannot change what I say though because what I am saying Is true - It is what it is

x daz x

[gazzAB]

Dont worry Daz cos i am sure my answers and opinions may seem arrogant too, its all down to perception!

I personally think I have an open mind but if something doesnt resonate within me then i put to one side to look at a later date so although it may seem i am dismissing actually i do ponder.

We may, of course, agree to disagree.

I am always happy to take part in discussions but please do not take my rejection of an idea as personal it is never meant that way it is just my opinion with the facts i have.

5 years ago i also didnt believe in spiritlism and the fact that mediums talk to people who have passed until i started to develop and found at that time it resonated with me. My point being up until thenb it didnt sound right so i rejected it until actually it made sense.

[NICE]

Gaz


I am sure that before we both pass on to the spirit realms we will have both agreed on something!! lol





x daz x

[Maxe]

Allow me to try and pinpoint this problem.

It's not that you Gazz are rude or that your inputs arent appreciated, for me your opinion is welcome just as everyone elses.

The problem is that is it always admins who do this, like you have some secret medium classroom where you teach each other that the spiritual world is no bigger than deceased humans. It's fair that you focus on this realm and it can even be argumented that this realm should be our only focus - however a glimpse of the grander picture WILL aid some individuals in their (individual) path.

Everytime the topic falls on aliens etc an admin will join the discussion and demean any other approach than a mediumistic one - oppinions are fine, but when it comes to childish, rude ridicule by an admin and you can't really respond fairly cause they have a kick button..then theres something wrong (NOT talking about gazzAB here but previous experiences with other admins)

[Nat]

Not getting in the middle of ya debate, ... just clearing something up in case anyone got the wrong impression.

I assume you would be referring Nice, to my post to Raffiki in a social group? If not never mind, I make so many I can hardly recall them all ..lol, ...but I don;t need to, to have confidence that I would not have made such a comment as a direct swipe at anyone. I just can;t imagine I would have called anyone arrogant intending to actually apply it to them.

If it is the post I am thinking of, I know Nice that you know the context it was said in was far from an attack on anyone, and was rather, a compliment if anything on be willing to take the flack I know you sometimes cop. I don't have to agree with you (and you know I don't on somethings lol) to still have an ability to see the dynamics of a situation at work.

(As others on this forum know too, - coz it was not long ago at all that I last chatted with someone about the way they were being misperceived and their options in approaching that to turn it around and paint a clearer picture of their true nature - which seems to be working out quite nicely for this person too xxx)

So others know tho, the post I am thinking of (and hope it is the right one I have mind) was actually a commentary that was an objective observation of human behavior in general.

How there is something within our nature in general (not talking all people all the time - tho I think it is a rare person that could say they have never ever been inclined to act with such a 'monky mind' at some point) that wants to pull people down a rung if we percieve them to be a step further up the ladder than ourselves. I suppose, how the qualities or truths of others can threaten our own sense of self, or challenge our own thinking, .... so we get out a baseball bat and kneecap em basically - perhaps to make ourselves feel better, to secure our thoughts in concrete, for may reasons.

Without going back to look, I do believe the perception of arrogance is something I said we can misguidedly apply to others. Not saying there are no arrogant people, coz there are and sometimes you do just see it for what it truly is, ... but anyway, I was saying in a round about way that I for one don;t see Nice as arrogant and was acknowledging the adversity he sometimes faces well for being himself really.

Coz we are funny little creatures sometimes, and we are prone sometimes to an inability to detach emotion from objective observation, ... and really, it's a facinating thing to ponder, ...what makes us tick, why we allow the actions of others to define our reactions, etc, etc. It is very liberating too when we can see all of this, and be able to transcend a situation and choose for ourselves our own reactions and thinking, rather than allowing others to define that for us. Kinda makes us little puppets really.

Anyway, just wanted my take on such things noted for clarity. Am still gunna disgaree with NIce on stuff tho ...rofl, and hopefully he takes it all well knowing their is nothing personal in it. We've shared hugs, we're all cool.

Nat xxx

Enough of that, I'll have to get a sparkly robe out and start chanting Ommm if I keep going down this road ..lol

[gazzAB]

Hi Maxe,

Im sorry you feel that way but to be honest i wioll not eject ban or anyhting for someone else having an opinion that doesnt follow mine.

I will not change my beliefs on the say so of others what i say is what i have found out. Yes i still am learning as we all are but i can only go on personal experience.

As far as i am aware no one has ever been booted for having a different opinion

[NICE]

Hi guy's

Your welcome to gate crash the party Nat

There's been so many occasions Nat your right!! I have lost count on the times u have used & abused me & then spat me out!! lol
All done respectfully of course. But we have an understanding & we are cool with each other & as you know my hugs are beta than yours. People that are on a similar level can debate topics without the "monkey brain" kicking In It is possible not to be disrespectful to our fellow human being just because their coming from a different level of understanding. Your right in saying that people on a different level will get a lot of stick/abuse from people (it's part of my training lol) & Yer maybe that's just part of human nature. The strength lies in the people that remain true to themselves & carry on regardless.

Maxe is no monkey & he can see that what has been going on in respect to certain answers from moderators. There is no need to ridicule & be rude & totally trash other peoples experiences. That's not spiritual. I am open to knew experiences & concepts & I would never say to a person that what they say have seen or felt is nonsense. I keep on about It but it keeps getting thrown back in my face!! "Nobody can say that another persons experience is not true" & yet i keep reading it & reading it like a record that goes round & around.......I m getting dizzy now so I am signing off the weekend

x daz x

[gazzAB]

maybe for clarification and to get the topic back on track

This is not true in my experience and leave it there

it is however a facinating debate and as i have already given my opinion will step back to allow the debate to continue ;)


The best thing about a site like this is we are all allowed an opinion just because my opinion does not match yours does not mean we cannot keep it friendly which i hope it ha still remained.

If i have further opinions i will state them but my opinion differs from yours and if like mediumship it is proven to me i will amend my thinking (although thats going to take some doing lol)

[Nat]

Don't worry Nice, I can cop it sweet too, like I did yesterday ..lol.

Someone found out (thanks to a mutual friend) that I can 'talk to dead people' , and he came up to me outside the supermarket and said right to my face, - you're full of - well you know ..lol.

Didn't bother me, I just shrugged, laughed, and said, 'that's ok, you can think that if ya want', ... and ya know, it really is ok.

If doubt or intrigue creeps in later, he'll be back asking me about it, and I'll be happy to talk about it if he wants to know.

Nat xxx

[Nat]

Back on this topic tho, ....I can do aliens, ... surely we can;t be the only planet in the universe with intelligent life forms on it, so hey, why not.

What I don't understand tho is what the original poster finds so scary about the experience that was recounted.

I mean I would not wanna come face to face with one, ..not a freaky looking one anywya, I'd go arrghhh and run lol, but that is not the type of thing that is being said.

Sorry, I am just missing what the actual fear catalyst is with this one. Not coz I am assuming anything, it just has not been made very clear.

Nat xxx