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I have kept a tab on this thread only because I have a personal interest in it knowing Sylvia in my own personal life. We are a quick to judge society and I find that less then appealing, to be honest with you.

To be so bold and yell out words like "fake" and "dishonest" is really a concrete slander if you ask me. Being psychic is not an exact science as the original poster stated.. yet in a few comments below the original one, there were judgment calls with less then desirable words towards 2 individuals who were not 200 % correct in their psychic findings. I just find this so out of sorts to what I am learning on this site. I have seen many so far not 100 percent correct and yet do we stop the reading by yelling "Fake" to them? no, we don't!!

I know for a proven fact.. yes a proven fake, that Sylvia as helped more people in her psychic abilities then most people can shake a stick to. Do we bash her for those also? Or did you miss that important piece of information and by pass all the wonderful and amazing things she HAS done to assist so many of thousands of people?

Perhaps when your name is Jesus or God, you will have the right to judge others for one or two things you mentioned on this thread and perhaps you will further investigate the person you are talking awful about and realize there has been so many peoples lives changed because of these individuals.

That's all I have to say on this subject.

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I'm sure Sylvia hasn't got to where she is today without having true ability, and you are right, psychism isn't an exact science and I am sure she has helped alot of people in the past - thousands. She has been doing this for many years. Any psychic I am sure, no matter how good, would have occasional clients go away and not think much of them after a personal reading. And I am sure it must be hurtful watching others bash a friend, I appreciate how you feel, and rightly so you should make comments about it, I would too if it were me! I read alot of her books and enjoyed them, she endured a very difficult life but also 'made it' in her field. In the past I have been loathe to criticise well known psychics because I couldn't get out in the public domain and do it. My psychic ability is vey affected by any stress, anxiety etc I am feeling at the time so I am usually very careful about judging those that can do it but I was shocked when I saw the video footage because she wasnt the woman I was expecting, she showed very little caring, sensitivity or empathy for the people she was reading for, and refused to admit she could be wrong. Theres more to be a psychic/medium than just ability and I know I couldn't put myself out there, to read for a single soul, if I didn't feel I could do it justice in regards to their needs, emotions, feelings. We are a bridge between 2 worlds, often dealing with alot of emotion, and in offering to help others you take on a responsibility - to show others what is out there, to open eyes, to heal, to care about the outcome of what you are doing, how people are going to feel on completion. If you can't do that I feel you can do more harm than good, and thats not what its all about, surely?
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Greetings Willow,

I appreciate your well thought out reply and consideration for my feelings in regard to a personal friend, that was very kind of you!

I have a hard time taking most Television shows on a true to fact basis, as there is a lot of editing that happens before most of them are aired. Knowing Sylvia and what she has endured in her own personal life with loss, I know she has a very sympathetic heart and has a great amount of compassion for people.

Giving the benefit of the doubt, perhaps those moments of Sylvia being caring and sympathetic were not aired, and perhaps the show edited a lot of what we "don't" know from Sylvia towards those precious families.

I will give you a piece of information that most people do not know about Sylvia that may or may not surprise you. On a daily basis, Sylvia has a note pad that she writes the names and information of people she encounters that day with troubled emotions, etc., and she unconditionally meditates with love in her heart for these people and does so quietly in her own space and time. ( This is not so that you change your thoughts about Sylvia) you are entitled to think as you wish about anyone.. however, out of fairness to such a wonderful and loving woman ( friend ) I thought it only fair to offer something more then 1 television show that made your mind up about a person who deserves more credit then one TV show.

Perhaps If I were sitting in your position and saw this show and didn't know this person, I would have some concerning thoughts as well. Yet, doesn't it allow us to learn about open mindedness and gives us the challenge to not view everything as concrete and realize that there are imperfections in all of us, and to realize there is more to a story then what meets the media eyes.

I know it's a daily struggle for me to look beyond the immediate, realizing there is always more then what I perhaps witness or take for granted as instant truth. I strive to one day be able to do such things without my own brain getting in the way..lol ;)

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Default Hi Annie :)

Your points noted and really, I appreciate where they are coming from. I guess when you open to the public domain, criticics as well as devotees, are going to come aplenty. As I said I enjoyed her books, but didn't like what I saw on the footage here. I'm sorry if I offended you as a friend, you know her far better than absolute strangers, but.....I never would've commented in the first place without feeling I had reason and I still stand beside what I have said (I rewatched the tapes and still felt the same) thats just my personal opinion. I guess we do need to learn not to judge but the truth, to me, is how we stand with the majority of those who know us, they are our mirrors. You are a good friend, I don't even exist in her life. I don't feel guilty for expressing my opinion, but I do hate upsetting people!
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Well if most of us could pay her extraordinary fees of $700 for a phone reading we might know the real 'Browne', if she really had everyone in her heart surely she would not charge so much when apparently so many are desperate to see her! It's not the bare necessity needed to live and continue the apparent crusade of healing and helping people but purely for her to experience the ultimate luxurious lifestyle. Lets assume she only does one reading per day and only 3 days a week (A gross underestimate by any standard) that means if shes working every week for one year shes earning $109200 and lets be honest that's no small amount even when underestimated. Lets not forget the money she gets from public appearances she is earning a lot of money while helping only the 'rich' due to her prices.

Yes many psychics are not correct all the time but they don't delve into things like health in particular! Take for instance her telling Randi on the Larry King Show to get his left ventricle checked because there was a problem with it! Well he did and there was nothing wrong with it. Or how about when she told one of the callers on Larry King's show to check the "bilirubin," which according to her is a Liver Enzyme. Well I don't know what enzyme shes going on about because "bilirubin" is a by-product of hemoglobin. This is routinely checked in blood tests and there is no need for a separate test as Sylvia told the caller to get, also if there was any elevated levels of bilirubin then there would be an easily visible jaundice. But most worrying of all is that Sylvia who as I have shown above is hardly correct about health issues a lot of time is also prescribing medicine to people! To one caller she prescribed Tegretol! She is not right all the time what she is doing is dangerous and can lead to complications in many people.

Her psychic abilities are questioned by the very people whom should apparently believe her in the form of the psychic community. I know many think she is a fraud as do I because she been wrong so many times and many of the times she's been wrong she's hurt the feelings of the many people blighted by her advice. The link I posted a page back proves her heartless way of talking to the public the very people her supporters apparently claim shes helping. She may have a little psychic ability which allows her to be right once in a full moon but most of the time it's hardly anything but cold reading.

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Hi guy’s

We have discussed on many threads about how much mediums / healers charge haven’t we, & what is redeemed as reasonable. We don’t seem to mind to much when we pay £100 an hour for good legal advise but it seems in bad taste sometimes when we are offered great spiritual advise for the same fee.

I had psychic surgery last year on my knee ligament which by the way was 100% successful & to be honest I would of happily paid £100 to get rid of the problem perhaps more? How much would someone pay to be free of pain?

$700 seems mighty expensive doesn’t It. I think personally that I couldn’t live with my self charging that amount, everyone has to live with themselves don’t they, If you regard yourself as a highly evolved spiritual being then I would say that you would not charge excessively, but I have always maintained that being a good psychic / medium doesn’t necessarily coincide with being spiritual. Perhaps she is worth every penny? I will not judge her, some things can not have a price attached can they It’s what it” worth to the individual.

Occasionally whilst giving healing I will have my guides prescribe certain herbs that could help a patient but I have never heard of a medium prescribing medical drugs - that’s a first for me - lol - (each to our own)

There is always a complete opposite & referring to a spirit link made just last week with the brazilian medium chico xavier for he had published 400 books via automatic writings & he gave all proceeds to the children / charities of his homeland. I would regard him as a "spiritual" medium - I think we would all agree

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Personally I would think it is illegal to prescribe medication unless you are medically qualified? Think of the damage it could do! As far as the charges are concerned I think that is an outrageous amount. However, if someone wishes to pay that much then it is their decision. At the end of the day we all have to be accountable for ourselves and nobody else.

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annie1,

I believe that the problem most are having here with Sylvia is, her so called accurate information caused the family more pain than they where already in. Can you imagine being told your child was dead, leaving you no room for hope, all the while your child is being held captive. Its wrong on so many levels, its beyond comprehension.

To give this type of information and not be one hundred and ten percent positive your right on. Well the answers easy to see, Then, Don't open your mouth! By doing so you not only cause those involved grief, you also lay the web of karma heavily on your own shoulders.

I feel for Sylvia, I really do. I think she is unaware of the repercussions for her own soul,. on the path she has chosen to lead. All things are returned in the end, best you place good tidings for your own future.
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I believe that any study/practice is the "study of" its origin. Exactly as said. We are physical beings. I can not say they are liars or fakes. An answer proven wrong ultimately brings a morale to its rock bottom. That is when people are quick to accept it a Faux.
As people when we are put on the spot to provide an answer in any job we do where people expect and judge you upon performance. When we are not sure or completely clueless we pull something to cover up a fault. Humiliation is avoided at all costs even when we know it is a part of life. Mistakes can be good also in study, we learn from them and benifit. An example of this. Since Columbus Day in US is this month. Most people thought the world was flat. A round world was a joke. Their mistaken belief in turn was not the answer people set in stone for so many years. I also believe that a person who is good at what they do and gets glamorized and put up so high, that they feel as if they are better in some way or more powerful. They become so sure of themselves and thinking falsely that they are untouchable it is those individuals who fall hard. It is the higher being that says that is enough. Those people deverve what they get I in my oppinion. In the case of Sylvia Brown, I don't think she is a fake, But She most definately fell in the catagory of the glamorized thinker.
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I've never really liked Van Praagh. To me he comes off as really digging for answers from his audience and sort of feeding them the "right" questions. I felt that John Edwards was a little more credible.

As for Sylvia Browne I'm a little on the fence, but some of her stuff seems a little far out. For example, she claims that the universe is shaped like a man, in the shape of God I think.

I do however think that her son, Chris Browne, is a little dodgy. My mom had a phone reading with him, and he made her so nervous by telling her something really horrible at the beginning of the reading that she forgot about all of her other questions, He told her that my older brother would die soon if he didn't stop abusing prescription pills, but he has never had a problem with them.

I don't know. We weren't really satisfied with that reading experience.
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