[Heebie]

Originally Posted by Tulkor

but did u visually and mentally experience a "shadow" that approached you / tried to attack you? did u try to move but realized you could not? did you feel any draining feeling?

Yes, both times actually.

The first I was looking out my (open) bedroom window in the middle of the night. I could see someone (?) moving about down the bottom of the garden. I leant out to get a better look and someone/something (possibly an arm?) grabbed me from outside my window and I dropped, powerless to the floor. That was when I woke up unable to move and hearing the weird, scary screeching noise.

The second time was almost identical but in different settings (local woods).

[bferreira]

hi i just posted a message on an experience i had just a couple of hours ago. i have been dealing with this situation for years now and they occur -i'd say- a decent amount of times a month. it has always been that sensation of wanting to scream and move but nothing. i do not recall hearing or seeing anything in my room though as the paralysis goes on but i have been having lots of really disturbing dreams lately which never happened before. the actualy dream scares me more than the feeling of not being able to move...

[Debee]

I have lucid dreams all the time.

I also, unfortunately, have the sleep paralysis aswell. Feeling of somone horrible in my room leaning over me and the dreadfull screaching noises.

It`s all normal and just a transition of going from one state to another (wakeing to sleeping) However, I feel people who have SP and lucid dreams are just more sensitive to their bodies - nothing to be scared of.

[CrimsonMelati]

In my country it is called "ketindihan" where people believed that a spirit/genie trying to posses your body by forcing itself on top of your body.
Some people say that one way to counter & break free from it is to move your toes first

[Clayjrjr]

Originally Posted by CrimsonMelati

In my country it is called "ketindihan" where people believed that a spirit/genie trying to posses your body by forcing itself on top of your body.
Some people say that one way to counter & break free from it is to move your toes first

The only times I've ever been able to break free from it IS to move my toes first.

It's always happened to me with the dark figure above me staring at me face to face almost in a taunting/stalking way... almost like a vulture ... except in an opaque, human-like, shadowy figure waiting for me to do something wrong.

You almost have to submit yourself to it in order to be released.... almost like accepting a deal.

...and.. well, when you find out the REAL meaning behind what it is... you would be scared literally to death.

Some people aren't meant to have OBEs.... so be careful... certain things could be lulling you to operate outside of your own paranormal abilities... which we all have, but some are less experienced.

It's not rare that people dream themselves to death.

On a more positive note though, the more you know about your own abilities and how to use them correctly,
the more you will understand what it is, and how to deal with it and if it's a good thing to pursue.

The only times that sleep paralysis can become something dangerous is if you have bad intentions when operating in that other realm... this is why the fear comes in, because your higher self ACTUALLY knows not to "play around" with that situation and to be careful.

Most times people are just too scared to calm themselves when this happens.

For future reference:
When dealing with the experience of not being able to move after waking up, and the dark figure is around... always make the most honest, calm, and collected "gesture"... because fighting it only feeds it and creates more fear for you.

You will notice instead of a quick release with you waking up in a panic mode, a more calm and easy release will happen...
After the calm release, you will still be able to feel the presence of the figure/s that appear to you.

[Debee]

What a load of ****!

I`ve noticed you posting a few things with regards of trying to scare people - why?

SP is normal and it has nothing to do with aliens or ghosts - why are you trying to scare people?

SP and OBE are normal - stop trying to make it something it is not.

[Clayjrjr]

Originally Posted by Debee

What a load of ****!

I`ve noticed you posting a few things with regards of trying to scare people - why?

SP is normal and it has nothing to do with aliens or ghosts - why are you trying to scare people?

SP and OBE are normal - stop trying to make it something it is not.

No. It's not my intention to scare people. My thoughts are my thoughts, so I share them with the intention of nothing more than giving my views.
Some things, in my opinion ,(which is obviously to be taken with either lightly, ignored, or considered) are possible that cannot be seen, heard, felt, tasted, or smelled, even by a mere human being.

If you're scared then that isn't my fault of what words scare you.

I try to word things in a way that describes things from what we call non-physical...

You should just ignore me if you don't like what I have to say, because to be honest with you,
I'm not going to try to convince you since you're against a lot of what I have to say.

This is a forum for discussing this type of thing, and so I am, and have stayed on topic up to now.

That's probably why the government hasn't told people about the aliens that you claim exists, because people like you would be too scared to actually know that they do... freak out, and start destroying the cities...

They tested the idea out over the radio some years back, and yes, as expected, people freaked out and started rioting, being violent, and doing all sorts of... well you get the picture.

Please, if anything, refrain from freaking out if you can when I say some "load of ****" that may just mean something to another person.

[windigo]

Clayjrjr is partly right.

Just because some people choose to view the world while wearing rose colored glasses doesn't mean there is nothing to worry about. I do agree with Debee that it is unwarrented to scare people. Problem is that people need to have an understanding of what is going on.

Let's take sleep paralysis. There have been extensive studies on this. What happens is the body lowers the excretions from the pinal and pituitary glands. Seratonin for example influences sensory response. Reason those of us that have taken the time to develop psionically run into this is that our consience kicks in long before the motor response of our body does. In other words, sometimes our mind is awake long before the body is. For me, It takes a few minutes.

There have been studies of shamans, gurus and mediums where they went into trace state. WIthin this state, they appeared to be "asleep" but were able to converse normally. Yes, they were inside an MRI machine for the test.

[Clayjrjr]

Originally Posted by windigo

Clayjrjr is partly right.

Just because some people choose to view the world while wearing rose colored glasses doesn't mean there is nothing to worry about. I do agree with Debee that it is unwarrented to scare people. Problem is that people need to have an understanding of what is going on.

Let's take sleep paralysis. There have been extensive studies on this. What happens is the body lowers the excretions from the pinal and pituitary glands. Seratonin for example influences sensory response. Reason those of us that have taken the time to develop psionically run into this is that our consience kicks in long before the motor response of our body does. In other words, sometimes our mind is awake long before the body is. For me, It takes a few minutes.

There have been studies of shamans, gurus and mediums where they went into trace state. WIthin this state, they appeared to be "asleep" but were able to converse normally. Yes, they were inside an MRI machine for the test.

Nice.
You see, this is the kind of post that I would have expected.

This info is nice to know about. Helps explain a lot.

Yeah, I don't mind being disagreed with, but being bashed for my views... eh not so much in love with that.

The contrast between the spiritual aspect of it, and the physical aspect is odd in itself.

I don't think that there can be an explanation or convergence of the two with words in any sort of coherent way.


I think that some people just don't know how to accept the fact that we CAN'T understand everything logically.


Also, not everyone believes what I believe... and that's why I word what I say the way that I do sometimes because to be blunt about it,
I have some wacky thoughts. Most of what I say is actually the lighter thoughts that I have.... wacky thoughts?
Wacky dreams?

I guess certain points of view are just not supposed to be voiced. :/

I'm not quite sure that the original posters of the threads are scared by what I said...

There are way scarier things in this world than sleep.
...I'll try to be considerate though...
I'll wait and just peep out if the person can handle it or not.

It's sad that things have become so bad that a person can't even speak the thoughts they have and not feel plagued by thoughts of impending negative consequence from others.

But windigo,
thank you.
Good info.
I didn't know those things.

[psychic-test]

i used to had paralized sleep. and yes it`s very scary because you are awake and your body cant move. but after a few seconds or minutes i can always wake up. i also had dreams when my spirit leaving the physical body, it might sounds funny but at that time i went to sleep only with my window close and my door shut. the idea that my soul will travel out of my body and never come back was very scary