[oktor]

while i don't believe in Sai Baba's skills, i'd hate to rule out physical manifestation from the spiritual world.
tribal people who are chosen by there people to be the spiritual guide are often presented with a gift from the other side while they sleep. usually a feather or a stone, i think the feather is more impressive than a rock but then depends on what the rocks worth on the open market ;)
sounds like you've explored all the physical possibilities and it's still spinning you out, probably becoming the kinda thing you tell your mates at a dinner party after a few drinks :P
the tribal thing is worth a look though, many families have old traditions that the younger generations know nothing about, with the speed of society these days those traditions get quickly lost in one or two generations, but they aren't started originally just for the sake of it.
many family traditions have the oldest in charge of the physical/cash side of the family and the youngest in charge of the spiritual well being. then with others its different all together.
in another less modern time it may have been seen as a career changing sign.

[mauriemw]

Originally Posted by Mike Winther

Hello everyone

Not really sure how to start this to be honest. I had what I think is an OBE with evidence the next morning( if someone sheds light into this it would be appreciated). It happened one night back when I was 20 in the middle of the week.. and NO...there was no drinking, drugs or stress induced moments of my life that would have affected this moment. It was summer time and average temperature for the time. The door was closed and locked but the windows were open (yet screens were there) and I lived on the third floor at the time. I fell asleep and started 'dreaming' that I was leaving my apartment in the middle of the night by somehow flying up into the dark sky over the city. I could actually feel the warm breeze as i was 'flying'. It was very peaceful looking down on the city. Out of the corner of my right eye I saw coming at me at the last second a crow (how I saw this in the dark I do not know).. and we collided at roughly a 90% angle. The crow and I went in opposite directions both feeling the affects of a collision. The crow flew away in a groggy state.. much as I felt.. and my body/spirit basically said.. time to get your **** home. I woke up with a headache not really thinking much about it until I felt a goose egg on my head. I went into the bathroom to see a bump on my head with a small cut.. and two feathers :| matted into my hair with blood. It F R E A K E D me out. I tried to find an answer to it. Looking for a dent in the drywall in the apartment.. blood drops on the floor in the hallways... I even was looking outside for crow feathers. I did not sleep for 3 days after this happened.. and NO.. did not keep the feathers.. they were thrown out almost immediately. Can anyone give me info on this please?

Hi Mike, Great story by far the best one i have read at this site so far!
The identity dynamics/mechanics that you created your astral /adventure with arn't much different to those (almost identical with those that you create the physical world/adventure with .
The problem arises when you try to apply false and limited /ancient control through fear beliefs that most are still given and used, in this age held from birth till death , to abstractly described their life experience ,
(eg) the white bearded creator god that came before the first beginning and created the different worlds, when in reality there is no beginning or ending to life, it simply is!
To put it another way , when you returned back and found the bump and feathers on your head it was unsettling, but the other objects/furniture in your room including your physical body you create in 'almost' the same way ,using ALMOST identical "inner' identity dynamics/mechanics ! you create the feathers the bump AND YOUR BODY WITH A HEAD for the bump to go on ect ect, life however you experience it is YOUR own creative adventure/event structure at all times'
If you asked people (and i have) if they think/believe that they create the dream environments that they experience they mostly say yes. ( they have a fundamental"innate" understanding of this ),but the identity dynamic/mechanic that creates the physical experience is almost identical !