[NICE]

Hi guy’s

Just a thought regarding reincarnation & new souls.

When we became aware of our existence & we had awareness that we have consciousness whether we have always been In existence or whether we were created at some point is irrelevent in this post.

My line of thought regarding reincarnation ( the “rebirth” of a soul in a new body ) as It’s definition, would be the concept that our soul energy would have experienced many physical lives whether being a man, or woman, Roman or Greek for example. Now my thoughts regarding free will as to how many children we each have In this lifetime has me thinking. How many souls are in the universe / the spirit realms? How many children are going to be born from this moment in time to the end of time if there is such a time? for we know for each child that is born a soul is needed to occupy the physical.

Does this mean that “new” souls are being created as to when a child is born or are there billions upon billions of souls in the spirit world waiting for their number to come up? For how does any one know how many souls are to be needed? Why would say the primitive man’s experience be chosen as a lifetime instead of say the new age existence that we are experiencing now for the primitive man possibly did not know what life would be like 50 thousand years from the time he bit the bullet & decided to experience physical life? Why is the concept that this same soul can experience both lifetimes hard to digest for those that disbelieve. In a way reincarnation is like recycling is it not lol - One soul living & then finishing It’s physical life cycle to begin another, not to have one physical lifetime & that’s It, so lets create another soul & another & another.

x daz x

[Maxe]

Hey NICE (going to have trouble calling another man that in the long run lol)


I think there are both new souls and older souls here, all merely aspects of our full self.

We ourselves can create a new aspect that can incarnate as human, like for example if we have a pet than gets individualized to that extent by being around our awesome human presence lol....or a relationship between 2 humans can in time become a lifeform on it's own.
That 'new aspect' can then help have experiences for the 'oversoul'...so it's not like..a complete process of turning nothing into everything.

As the old saying goes 'as above - so below' also works in the way of the "spirit world" adjusting to what reality we create here on Earth...i.e if we create hell, aspects will come who need that experience.

[SemperNox]

The universe is vast ... for most individuals it is literally unimaginably and indescribably enormous. All forms of matter and energy which are possible in our universe has or does exist somewhere and sometime. I believe the droplets of spiritual aether which become our (and other life-forms') souls is as vast and enduring as anything else in the universe.

One thing which is most certainly not infinite in this universe is humanity. We've only existed as a species for under two million years, and as a modern society for around ten thousand years; and at some point, everything we identify as human will cease to exist. I don't believe in a finite or predetermined number of souls (human or otherwise.) Even if we assume every living thing or human has a soul at or before the moment of birth, there is still no reason souls need to exist before infusion into the body. It will simply separate from the great spirit sea and become an individual for the duration of the mortal life plus as long as that individual desires to stay separate from the cosmic energy.

I doubt becoming human, mortal, or physical is a desire or requirement for every spirit individual. I also don't believe a soul is required for life ... especially if the argument is made for humans having souls at the exclusion of most or all other life. If that's the case, what makes humans so special to be the only life-form to have --and indeed require-- a soul?

I do believe in reincarnation as an option, but I don't believe every soul chooses to come back; and if they do, they may wait mere moments or millennia before they opt to try a human form again. Obviously, I also don't believe in the traditional idea of an eternal individual soul.

In short, yes, I believe in many cases new life (new baby) will mean the "creation" of a new soul, but not always.

[AMP]

Trouble I have with that idea balance is that everything exists at once - there is no time. So any soul energy that is released from God's energy cannot have a 'timing' attached to it.



AMP xxxx

[Emerald111]

We don't have a soul,we are the soul.''The soul has always been.It is individualed when it becomes incarnated into the human frame.The soul has no beginning and no end...The spirit has always existed,the spirit was not created out of nothing. ''Silver Birch

[annie1]

Hi Nice,

If I am completely understanding your original post, then I am in the mindset that you are asking, 2 different questions. 1) being how many souls are chosen ( and why) to experience a human life, and 2) why is it important to experience a human life now, versus hundreds of years ago. ( that is how i took your post) i may be off base, not sure. ?!?!

Ok I just reread your post again.... and I think I have an understanding about your questions in regard to reincarnation and the "birth" of souls.

Spirit is infinite, it always as been and always will be ( that is hard for our human minds to wrap our thoughts around)... I don't even try to, as I know at some point when I leave this physical body, i will either remember or learn that without questions.

As here on earth, we are constantly learning something... even if it has nothing to do with schooling, we are always in the process of learning something. In spirit, we do the same things, according to those spirits who have been channeled and have shared that information with us. In spirit, we are always seeking to evolve in knowledge, growth, understanding, etc etc. The spirit itself is perfect, there is not one single flaw in spirit... our experiences no matter where they are at, here on earth, or somewhere else, allows us to take our spirit perfection and experience existence in other realms. ( i have yet to learn why that is so important to the whole picture) but i am sure one day that knowledge will be gained also. At this time in my spirit and human experiences, I can only assume it is so that we are able to experience enough to help create new universes for more and more experiences.. so that tells me it's never ending, it continues forever and ever and always has.

With that being said, I feel as tho in spirit.... groups of souls ( like here on earth groups of humans, families, friends, etc) are formed and in that they are very familiar with one another and what is needed individually and as a whole in order for continues spiritual evolution. I feel the reason a spirit is chosen to exist in a human form and other life forms in other places for the reason that it will best suit the needs of that particular spirit individually and as a whole to the spirit group to work eventually towards the ability to create new universes. Can you imagine what it would take to create such a perfect universe for continued spirit experience on different vibrational planes? Whew, a lot!!!

reincarnation....I am not apposed in believing that reincarnation is not totally possible. If it is, I don't feel as tho everyone who has experienced a human life would need to reincarnate into another human life. I do believe ( and this is only my belief, whether it be right or wrong, that there are some spirits, for whatever reason after hard consideration with their higher guides and group mentors, if you will... will look at the whole picture and if there is a substantial reason for that particular spirit to come back to the earth plane to exist again in another human body, then I would say it is possible. I don't feel as tho it is a common practice amongst the spirit world to this particular plane of existence. I feel it is random, and not a common practice.

I also want to be careful in what I say, as I could be completely wrong, and in that, I would feel shame ( not as we understand shame here in our human bodies) but a shame that i would want to reverse my words in spirit that i offered to other humans while here on earth and fix what I said on this earthly plane in my spirit plane. There is so much for me to do that I don't want that to be something I would focus on the most in spirit and hinder my movement in my evolving to a slow roar. Sounds selfish, but also it has much compassion in it for me, and for others.

You know Nice, there is a wonderful concept of spiritual law as much as we have human law and order. There is also free choice/ free will within those structures of spiritual law. What a great opportunity to find out with your guides/guardians what you could be doing on your earthly plane in order to assist you in your spiritual evolving growth.

I am presently reading a book called ( Life in the world unseen) of a man who is now in spirit who went through exactly what I just mentioned above. He was a Minister of sorts for a rather large church and offered information that was less then spiritual truths. In his human mind, he felt he was doing a great deed for the common good of God, and humankind, his intent was honorable, yet his convictions were not exactly the way things are in the spirit realm. Because of this... he was not "punished" but he felt shame and so badly wanted to rectify somehow what he had done, and offer truths of spirit realms to those of us still here on the human plane. When I read that, I was so moved in such a direction that it made me think twice before I offer "my truths" as "complete truths" to others.

Truth for us individually comes from what we don't know as of yet. We can only speak in terms of what we have learned thus far. If we have nothing else to relate to, then what we know at the time is our truth. This is why seeking, and experiencing, is so very important to us. Each time we evolve, our truths change, don't they So what we feel might be our truth today, may change in a blink of an eye, or a blink of an experience tomorrow.

I wish you success on your journey of truths, Nice... it is one to embrace with excitement

Annie xxxxxxxxx

[gazzAB]

some very interesting views.

My personal view is the soul is the sum of our body all our material experiences. These are imprinted on the spirit so when it moves on to the spirit plane it ahs the sum of knowledge and experience of the material plane.

The spirit then after returning to spirit shares its experience with the whole.

This is why i persoanlly dont believe in reincarnation

Plus why would i want to come back to the material plane if AMPY is gonna harrass me in the "next" life too :O

[AMP]

There is absolutely no escaping me gazza whatever happens lol!!!! I will get ya one way or other ROFL.


AMP xxxx