[Sibyl]

This thread is getting so nit-picky and hidden meanings are being sought that are not there so I am closing the thread.

Please report me to Mr Craig Hamilton-Parker

[ricky]

Originally Posted by Sibyl

Can I just make the point that the programme Most Haunted is an embarassment to most Spiritualists I am in contact with; I do not even find it entertaining and in my opinion, it certainly has nothing to do with spirit contact, mediumship or Spiritualism.

I must also point out that just because someone does not believe in, or accept, or can find any evidence for, eternal life whatsoever, will not make it go away. There must be thousands of people who have received their evidence; who have had personal experiences; who have witnessed ectoplasmic formations of people they know; who have investigated mediumship phenomena and not found it wanting; they are deluded? Some things cannot be dismissed so lightly and while everyone has the right not to believe, please do not be so derogatory of those who do. I do not accept reincarnation but many of my friends do and we never fall out; we allow each other the right to find our own pathways through life and to accept what makes sense to us.

luv
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i think most haunted especially carl beaty throwing things and faking things has done a lot of damage to mediums and the belief of spirit,i didnt belive untill i have seen a spirit and would,nt have known it was a spirit untillit dissapeared in front of me.it looked like a normal person sinse then 20 years ago i have seen a lot of spirits and been to spiritulist churches and had absolutly spot on readings they had no way of prior knowledge even describing the way there personalities were and other very detailed exact things.untillsceptics see for them selves they willnever believe.its like not believing in air because you cant see it.and as for most things in life if you dont look you will never see or find it.

[destlecare4]

I think the show is purely 'for entertainment purposes only and the show is only to scare people
and opinions are just opinions....

[richardvilla]

Originally Posted by Suebh

Most Haunted is a programme that is a bane to most upstanding, honest and educated mediums. Have a read of this article and perhaps you will understand why we promote honest factual information and therefore cannot have Most Haunted on our list of things to watch/believe.

28 October 2005/The Mirror
SPOOKY TRUTH: TV'S MOST HAUNTED CON EXPOSED TV
By Matt Roper
THE TV show that has spooked millions with its footage of hauntings and poltergeists is today exposed as a fake - by one its own stars.

Resident parapsychologist Dr Ciaran O'Keeffe has sensationally lifted the lid on the ghosthunting series, Most Haunted ... and claims that the public are being deceived by "showmanship and dramatics."

He accuses the show's medium Derek Acorah of hoodwinking viewers by pretending to communicate with spirits and obtaining information about locations prior to filming.


The Mirror has also obtained unedited footage which appears to show presenter Yvette Fielding and her husband faking 'paranormal' occurrences such as ghostly bumps and knocks.


Most Haunted has quickly achieved cult status since it was launched in 2002 and is LivingTV's most successful programme.


Millions of viewers tune in regularly to watch Ex-Blue Peter girl Yvette and her team of ghost hunters spend the night in some of Britain's most haunted locations.


It has made Acorah - who claims to be guided by an Ethiopian spirit guide called Sam - into one of the country's best-known psychics.


Tonight the show will start its biggest ever live vigil, a four-night Halloween special from East London following the murderous trail of Jack the Ripper.


Yvette Fielding has said of the show - which is made by her husband Karl Beattie's production company Antix Productions: "There is no acting in this programme, none whatsoever. Everything you see and you hear is real. It's not made up, it's not acted."


But our investigation reveals how the programme uses careful editing to mislead viewers and, on at least one occasion, has even lied about the location of filming.


Ciaran, a lecturer in the paranormal at Liverpool's Hope University, knows speaking out will probably put an end to his media career... but he believes viewers should know the truth.


He says: "I think it's time to open the dialogue about what I've experienced on Most Haunted. There have been many incidents with the medium that have been brushed under the carpet.


"I was put in the show to give a professional slant to it, to give it an element of credibility, but the sceptical argument is just swept away.


"In my opinion, we're not dealing with genuine mediumship."


He says he isn't the only member of the crew who feels viewers are being cheated.


"Other crew members have been irked by Derek and what's going on, because it turns what should be a serious investigation into a laughing matter."


And our exclusive footage shows other members of the team occasionally forget they are on camera.


One of our clips, later edited out, shows Karl push an unwitting sound man in the dark and pretend it was a poltergeist attack.


In the remaining footage he says (after surreptitiously hitting the soundman): "S**t, did you feel that?"


Yvette: Are you all right? What's happened?


Karl: I felt something touch me on my shoulder.


Soundman: I felt something hit me.


And in another edited clip with medium Ian Lawman, Yvette is seen on camera making a deep sigh. In the scene that eventually went to air, Ian (after Yvette sighs) says: "What's that noise?


Yvette: What noise? Like a moan?


Ian: Breathing or something.


Yvette: I heard like an 'arrggh'.


Ciaran, who joined Most Haunted in April 2004 became suspicious of Acorah's antics on a shoot at Castle Leslie, Co Monaghan in Ireland where a 17th Century four-poster bed has been claimed to levitate.


Ciaran recalls: "As we walked into the bedroom, Derek touched the bed and came out with extremely accurate information.


"He insisted he got all the information just from touching the bed. But it was the wrong bed."


Antix Productions claims the mediums have no idea where they will be filming or know any details about the history of the locations.


But Ciaran says: "Derek must have had prior knowledge of the locations."


He devised a plan to see if Derek was deliberately deceiving the public.


While on a shoot at Bodmin gaol he invented a long-dead South African jailer called Kreed Kafer - an anagram of Derek Faker.


"I wrote the name down and asked another member of the crew to mention it to Derek before filming.


"I honestly didn't think Derek would take the bait. But during the filming he actually got possessed by my fictional character!"


On the next shoot at Prideaux Place, Cornwall, Ciaran made up another fictional character, highwayman Rik Eedles - an anagram of Derek Lies. Sure enough, Derek made contact with the dead outlaw.


Ciaran says: "In my professional opinion we're not dealing with a genuine medium.


"When Derek is possessed he is doing it consciously - all we are seeing is showmanship and dramatics."


Ciaran went a step further at Craigievar Castle, near Aberdeen.


"I made up stories about Richard the Lionheart, a witch, and Richard's apparition appearing to walk through a wardrobe - the lion, the witch and the wardrobe!" True to form, Derek mentioned all Ciaran's stories - even though Richard I reigned 500 years BEFORE Craigievar Castle was built.


The final straw came last month when Most Haunted presented a three-night special from Manchester.


On the second evening, the show claimed to be broadcasting live from the site of Cheadle's Victorian asylum, a place where - according to presenter David Bull - thousands died in torment. In fact they were in the derelict remains of Barnes Convalescence Home - where nobody died in torment.


Ciaran remembers: "Derek was communicating with spirits that sounded as if they'd been in an asylum, but it was never an asylum."


Yesterday the Mirror confronted Derek Acorah with Ciaran's allegations. He told us: "I've worked with Ciaran for many shows and he's got every right to say what he says.


"However, it does shock and surprise me. Not only do I believe that I am a genuine medium - I live my work 24 hours a day. If I thought that I wasn't a true medium, I wouldn't work as one."


A spokesman for LivingTV said: "Ciaran O'Keeffe has worked as the programme's official sceptic for 18 months and during this time has not brought any of his concerns to our attention.


"LivingTV has not seen any of your filmed evidence, but will fully investigate your claims."





Sue

This is exactly what I thought. Honestly, I have just joined this site (2009) some 3 years after this post. I have watched and studied Most Haunted over the last 2 years, and although love 'ghost' programs, I knew this program 'wasn't right'. I never like Derek Achora, I actually laughed at him when he done his acts. What Yvette and the gang do is clever; they take that young chubby girl along because she screams at the slightest of movements. They say (Yvette is the one for this) "did you hear that?" when no-one else has. I think their intentions are genuine, but when they get no joy which is probably 99% of the time they seem to 'make' something happen. I just watch it every now and then for a laugh. Im still looking for a good, genuine ghost program.

[missyt78]

I agree with most, Most haunted is a bit sketchy and silly at times, but you cant deny that it has big ratings, and out of all the sillyness it has encouraged others to become more involved in spirit world.

Personally i think that It has raised awareness in some context of mediumsip and the way they work, maybe showing others that there are alternative roles they can explore if they have a gift they want to tune into.
It does give some good constructive "scientific" feedback in the mass hysteria which is a good thing cause we all hear bumps and groans in the darkness.. but it doesnt mean we live in a haunted house lol It does try to encourage rational thinking, before giving a "unexplained paranormal" verdict on activity witnessed by the team.

I do think that Derek Akora has shown some great dramatics in the show, and altho these are allaborate at times. it is purely entertanment value, and this is why it is on TV

Most haunted gets to visit some of the most amazing location with horrendous past energies ground into their foundations.. some of us can only imagin how exciting/scary and possiably terrifying it would be to spend a full evening in darkness there. Im sure i would be the first one running screaming and saying there was something lurking in the corners.. only purely because the mind is a complex piece of kit, and we can allow these thought to spiral out of control if the circumstances are correct.. ratrional mind of not! LOL

So SINCE most haunted IS a TV series.... Please play niice .. oppinions are all permitted, here.. im sure that why the forum exists.. but personal attacks on oppinions are not niice, and doesnt make niice reading.

Blessings and Light

[mysticinsight]

I think it was also stated he was ONLY talking about 'Derek Acorah' not any of the other mediums. It was well known Derek was fired from the show... wasn't it?