[jnvetnurse]

Originally Posted by Nat

If only 3 of 28 saw this face then it was not true transfiguration. Often clairvoyance or what I call ?rubber faces? (energy distorting features) gets mistaken for what can only be accurately termed transfiguration when an ectoplasmic mask is involved which is visible to all. There is also no need to be doing exercises such as staring at people,?staring can play tricks with the eyes, especially in darkened rooms.

As I said all ready this is a synapse of a much larger story of which I am not getting into. I choose to disagree with you and do believe that I witnessed something. This was a mediateive excercise. I who am a normal joe soap and the other two women both extremely gifted mediums one an artist the other as I said is a very well know women whom does work in the area of healing with the influences of the angels. this woen had come to observe this shaman's work prior to taking up his offer of joining his practise.... An offer Which she subsequently didn't take up. All of the other people seen the exact same guides except the one beckoning. We know this as after the excercise he had already pictures drawn by an artist who had witnessed the same guides.I find your tone a bit dismissive ye know this had a profound effect on me. Also to note this man, shaman is huge in ireland england and the states.

[Nat]

... And as I have said already and will reiterate again, this was not true transfiguration if only 3 people saw it. At no time did I dispute that you saw "something" hence my suggestions on what it may have been. It is your prerogative to disagree or decide I am being dismissive (and that is fine by me) ... however I can not change the facts about transfiguration to suit either you or the other two people who "witnessed something". I did not decide upon them, ... spirits repeated demonstrations of transfiguration, spirits teachings about them, and 150 years of consistent evidential research is unwavering in transfiguration (which is a physical phenomena) only truly occurring when all present can see the same thing. If this is not the case then the explanation lies somewhere else, and perhaps in one of the suggestions I gave you to try to help you, and hopefully alleviate some of the distress this caused you, ... not to dismiss you as you unfortunately feel I have.

[Arabella]

My sister and I were having lunch in a restaurant where we used to work and another woman came in, one of three sisters who had also worked there. One of the three died about 15 years ago and the woman we were talking to said it was her birthday. We were talking about how much we missed her sister and suddenly, the woman simply became her, just transformed. She had a glow to her and looked radiantly happy. It lasted several minutes and I was in total awe. When she looked like herself again, I said "You just turned into Daad! I don't mean you looked like her -- you WERE her" and my sister said "I'm glad you saw that too. It was the most amazing thing I've ever seen."

The glow and joy were very striking -- she looked like a golden goddess. It was a wonderful experience and I think of it as having been Daad appearing in such glory to let us know she was well and happy. Maybe easier for that to happen between sisters?

[tiano]

I used to see a medium, who was a shamanic healer, for readings. The first time I went I kind of felt myself slipping into a trance and I started seeing all this purple down one side, I told her so and she said when we've finished I'll show you something downstairs. It was a aura photo and sure enough all the side where I saw it was purple. A few months later at another reading she was telling me about a past life regressionist she's seen in Chorley. She was telling me about one of her apparent past lives which I wasn't 100% on in all honesty, though I was open minded. I listened intently and again felt myself slipping into a trance, which felt similar vision wise to when I'd taken LSD as a youngster. The lady in question was quite a big lady and yet as she was telling me about being an egyptian priestess in this past life, I started seeing her hair straightening up then her face slimming and changing completely. As I got down to near her neck her shoulders slimmed completely too and I literally thought wow, she's beautiful, then I came out of the trance and things were normal again. I didn't mention it till about 2 weeks later when I left her a message on her phone. She rang back and queried me about it and told me about a time at a party were she was talking to a bloke there and he quickly stepped back, she asked him why he had and he said she'd turned into a wolf in her face. These were the only two times its happenned she said but it was quite an experience to see this and it made me think more about reincarnation.
Its not just a sudden thing or mine wasn't, the medium seemed to slowly change in features but it was a real eye opener and abit of a mind bending experience at the time

[gusstavo]

i do not kno wwho i am writing to but for the past few months, every single night, i see 5 or 6 'ghosts' in my bedroom, they float around me and they are talking to me but i can't hear a word they say. the use their hands in gestures and tehy point to each other and i was afraid at first but more amused now but am i going crazy? Anyone I can talkt o about this? A few of them appear larger than a normal person and i think most are guys and they are all dressed in jeans and flannel shirts and i close 1 eye to see if i see them and i do, if i close the other eye i see the same thing but if i close both eyes I DO NOT SEE THEM AND THAT IS HOW I GO TO SLEEP EVERY NIGHT. LAST NIGHT THEY ALL GOT TOGETHER, PUT THIER HEADS TOGETHER, LIKE 4 OF THEM AND APPROACHED MY FACE, I CLOSED MY EYES AND WENT TO SLEEP.

I AM WOORIED ABOUT MYSELF NOW. HELP

[tiano]

I think the first thing you should ever do if you have any activity at all is pray to god for protection. Next if you aren't scared at the times they appear then ask them to communicate by sending thoughts to you, you may find it easier to close your eyes to receive information but you don't have too. Ask them how they are and why they are with you and try and relax and just see what comes to your minds eye. I don't hear spirit talk alot to me and when I sit in a circle the information seems to come to my minds eye and the words are clearly spelt out. If it happens at a regular time try and you know anybody tuned in spirit wise, get them round and see if they can pick anything up. A good medium or psychic should also pick up info and shed some light on your visitors. Don't be scared and tell them to give you some space too and to only contact you on a set day and time and then meditate and you may receive communication. Does anyone else have experiences at your house?

[eyelex]

reply to your message has any one seen this outer body experience before. when my eldest son was little i saw him come out of his body and just stand there staring at me in my bedroom door.i got straight up and followed him back to his bed,where i saw him sit back into hiself and lay down where he was already asleep.i hope this helps

[Nat]

Originally Posted by eyelex

reply to your message has any one seen this outer body experience before.

A brother and I both saw our dad walk 10-15ft past the loungeroom opening and in to the kitchen. (Something he typically did late at night after being in bed for a few hours.) Baffed a minute later coz no light or noise were coming from the kitchen, we went to investigate and found an empty kitchen and him sound asleep in bed :shock: ?????

Nat xxx

[Birka]

Hello!

I'm not sure if this is transfiguration but I'll go ahead and post it anyway because at least I'll start getting my terminology sorted out.

A bit of background first - my father was brought up Spiritualist and although he didn't attend any churches he would heal folks. I have lost count of the times when people have come up to me and told me that my father had scared them because he had known about their medical conditions without them telling him and that he had healed them.

I have seen my father heal folks a fair few times and as a kid, I didn't really know what was happening, just that my dad's face would change and there would be another face sort of superimposed over his. What is that called? Is that transfiguration?

I did ask him what it was but he said that it was his spirit guide 'coming through'.

[Nat]

Originally Posted by Birka

my dad's face would change and there would be another face sort of superimposed over his. What is that called? Is that transfiguration?

Your dad is correct. It is just an overshadowment by his spirit guide. Transfiguration is a physical phenomena produced when spirit impress their features in to an ectoplasmic mask, and not at all like anything anyone is talking aboout on this thread.

Nat xxx