[chp]

With so much terrorist crime it is not surprising that many people are now calling for the reintroduction of capital punishment for certain crimes. But what happens to people that we send to the spirit world prematurely? Are we just delegating the problem to the people in the next world? Is the soul of a criminal sent to Hell or does he perhaps reincarnate immediately on Earth to wreck more havoc in the future?

What do you think? Is capital punishment a good idea?


See also the section of our website about Past lives and reincarnation:
http://www.psychics.co.uk/pastlives

[myself]

I don't feel capital punishement is a good idea because we are then no better than the originator of the crime. If we know life continues how are we helping the person by taking their lives? and how are we punishing them? To me the only thing we are doing is adding to our own deeds by putting this final judgement on their life here. We should not 'play God'
It would take one miscarriage of justice for the whole system to be marred by the whole process. How can you make up for taking a life of someone in error? As a society we would all be responsible for this.
The saying 'an eye for an eye and pretty soon we will all be blind' comes to mind. If we murder someone for murdering someone don't we all become murders?
As for terrorism, within some societies wouldn't putting a person to death cause them to be known as martyr? This in itself may cause others to want to 'aspire' to this kind of death, and therefore encourage more acts of violence.
And finally, to me once a person has left this world and enters into spirit they will learn about the things they have done and how it has affected others because they won't have the 'outer shell' of the body to protect them from the feelings of others. They will then have to come to terms with all the affects of their acts. But I also believe that God is fare and that if we punish someone so totally here then they will be spared some of the affect of their act within spirit as they have already received 'punishement' for it once.

Just a few thoughts
Myself xxx

[libranaster]

I don't believe in capital punishment because it just punishes their family not them. Capital punishment punishes the innnocent parties in the crime. Although when they came back the next time I don't believe they repeat the mistake. Reincarnation is about learning and I believe we keep reincarnating till we get life right so they learn from each life. I had a dream that permanently turned me off capital punishment it was very outrageous and is not possible but the image of this dream will be imprinted on my memory in this life and probably many others.

[stacy]

Hmmm after reading this post my first thought was that I believe that before we incarnate on earth we plan the lessons to be learnt and roles we are to take on, so therefore it wouldnt be a case of passing the problem on to the other side. If you were to try see the good in people that would be a nice way to view it, but then I thought that some people, are genuinely truly dark souls and as for them I couldnt think of where they would go-maybe they would go to some kind of reflection area to consider what has happened. Another possible viewpoint is that the cosmos needs the good/ evil balance to keep order, although thats a theory that I havent really explored before... I would think that they would eventually reincarnate,though not immediately as they obviously need to learn things(like not to kill people)!

[Anne57]

I personally think that those who have committed crime have done so because society in some way has failed them. I think at some point in their lives they have been exposed to something or treated badly, or could have a mental illness which as caused them to act in this way.

I have read that we all "choose" our paths before we come to this world, and I think that being so this is "their own particular journey", so to speak. People have been given or chose a particular journey in order to learn certain lessons here on earth that they need to learn in order to progress in spirit.

I am not saying that this is an "ok" way to live, I just think that all of our "journeys" interact with everyone else's journey and we all have a purpose.

[Kina]

Originally Posted by chp

With so much terrorist crime it is not surprising that many people are now calling for the reintroduction of capital punishment for certain crimes. But what happens to people that we send to the spirit world prematurely? Are we just delegating the problem to the people in the next world? Is the soul of a criminal sent to Hell or does he perhaps reincarnate immediately on Earth to wreck more havoc in the future?

What do you think? Is capital punishment a good idea?

I personally think capital punishment is wrong and very hypocritical. They say it's wrong to kill so since you did we are going

to kill you? A full life in prison would be worse actually. I think that we mostly plan our lives before we incarnate, so

someone killed because of the death penaly would not be dying prematurely. I don't believe in hell, but I have heard of dark

souls immediately reincarnating or going to a kind of "holding tank"( not sure if I believe this though). But I think probably

quite a few of the souls( if not all) that die because of the death penalty do end up on the other side.

Kina

[DABhand]

The reason coporal punishment was abolished in most countries was that of the argument that convictions may not be 100% accurate.

But today, with DNA etc it is very accurate.


I have always believed in owning up to your own actions, now if your willing to kill a person then you yourself must be willing to go the same fate.


And also coporal punishment is a very very good deterant, will never ever stop murders but it would make alot of people think twice.

[Sibyl]

People who commit crimes in the physical world are our responsibility and slinging them into spirit is not the answer irrespective of the horrendous nature of the crime. The whole point of spirit communication is for mediums to give evidence of survival after the change called death. We are trying to prove eternal life and eternal life actually means "There is no Death!" So how can we actually kill anyone? We cannot. We can destroy their physical bodies but we are, in fact, freeing the spirit.

We must find the money and/or whatever it requires to deal with these people in our world, where the crime was committed.

If you are aware of the afterlife then you will know that capital punishment is 'passing the buck!'

[DABhand]

And what if "hell" is real. Are you suggesting that if such a place were to exist, its passing the buck?


Either way the subject is coporal punishment, I took a non spiritual view on it, and I think personally it should be brought back to stop the unfortunate untimely deaths of many young children and adults.


In terms of spiritual.

I keep it simple.

If you were good (only if you were good) and murdered, you goto heaven

If you were bad and murdered, you still goto the naughty fire.

[Sibyl]

Hell is real but many people on earth know what it is like to be in Hell - physically, mentally and emotionally.

Freeing the spirit does not mean it enters the fires of hell as these are non-existent. We have been told by many wellknown and loved Spirit Teachers that we each gravitate to the sphere suited to our natures and that we will be with people of 'like mind' - so murderers will be with murderers and it will not be pleasant. It can not be death, or non-existence, as the spirit is immortal.

As I understand it the death penalty has not stopped people killing others, if it did there are a few countries where it is still used which should be 'murder-free' but they are not.

There is a danger that this post will become political and we will all end up discussing countries methods of dealing with criminals and as it is a spiritual discussion forum then I do think we should try and keep to the terms of reference for these boards.

There aren't any easy answers and we all would like to live in a Utopian World but people are at different levels of understanding and awareness so this can never happen and as far as I am concerned the law of 'an eye for an eye' doesnt not resolve some of these problems