[Shera]

Wasn't sure if any one saw this,would like to have some opinions on this..thanks!

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Hello,

From what I have experienced,it seems to be OBE..

I started to have these when I was in my teens.Still do have them but not as much the past few yrs. Not sure what to make out of them so I have,hmm..fought them off..

When I first started to have them,I felt as if I was being forced to fall asleep,I knew when I was going to have one. I would hear shuffling of feet and whispering.Felt like I was dreaming but was very aware,sometimes I would be "walking" around my home or getting off my bed,sometimes I would feel like I was falling or start spinning out of control. I knew I was not "awake" and force myself to wake up,at times I would think I was awake but was not.I would then again get out of bed and do the same thing over and over until I was awake. Other times I would try and turn on my lights and my hand would not come in contact and I would get that falling feeling threw the door,walls or floor.

There has been other times,I felt like I was in other places..one time I felt as if I was in another country in a mall..hehe..but there was a man there and saw me. He was angry with me,and I could feel from him that he was asking me why I was here.

Alot of the time during these experinces,I feel,evil spirits around me.I am fighting them away with Gods help. When I am back,there have been times I have seen spirits,not the ones I wanna see ither.

I have been told by a person who seen me in this state once,That I am shaking and breathing very hard.I felt I was doing this because I could always hear myself and feel myself shaking,so them telling me this validated what I thought to be true.

Well there is some of my experinces

~Shera
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O,forgot to add,sometimes I would hear very LOUD...zapping noises,or banging,or,you know that sound if you take a big slate of metal and shake it or bang on it. That the best way I can describe it. I would hear these noises more so upon waking.

[jacquit]

Hi Shera, i would be interested to know about others experiences of OBE's, because what you describe is nothing like the kind of experience i have had. It has always been a very peaceful time and enjoyable, but do others have different typrs of OBE's? also i wouldn't have any idea what state my body is in at that time because i'm out of it?
Jacqui

[Shera]

I have wondered the same thing,why do I see the bad? I'm not an evil person and I never wanted to welcome it in my life ither.Always seemed to come to me. :?

[Nat]

Hi Shera, (apologies for the length of this, but I think you might find it helpful)

Our minds are pretty powerful and can influence our experiences oob or in lucid dreams. That you feel a negativity does not mean there is anyone negative around you, it could just be your reaction to the experience setting this up. I will tell you something I did once that for me at least, backs up our feelings and thoughts influencing such experiences.

I was awake, fully conscious at all times, and deliberately induced this experience. I was in my house experimenting with what my mind could influence and thought, "I wonder what would happen if I thought the most horrible negative things I could come up with?". (yep, I am the curious type ...lol) At the time the room looked kind of iridescent, and ethereal, quite beautiful compared to my normal waking perception of it, and I was almost in an ecstatic mood. When I started thinking negative thoughts the room firstly became more solid, ... then I could see dark patches appearing on the walls that grew and spread, ... even the white on the walls became more a dark cream dirty looking color. It was dank, mouldy, and wet feeling, really really scungy, and I started feeling really heavy, gloomy and flat. Pushing it a bit further the carpet started turning dark and soon the room was 2ft deep in what looked like flies.

I decided that was enough, and changed my thoughts to positive one's, ... the mould on the walls receded, the color of them lightened, the flies started disappearing, and eventually the room seemed to be bathed in golden sunlight, and the window became a glowing red color that almost felt like it was drawing me to it with it's warmth. I was back to feeling exhilarated. I did this twice to double check the response/reaction, and the second time I climbed through the window and had a awesome time, ... but the rest is kinda irrelevant. What is relevant tho, is that the imagery corresponded with my thoughts each time, and produced a feeling each time.

For me this was a good example tho of how your thoughts and feelings can affect perception, and how you can consciously choose to turn them around. It is nothing to do with anyone being good or evil, I think we are all shades of everything, it just takes pushing the right buttons with each individual to see all aspects, but ultimately we do have a choice in letting our light shine or having it encased in the shadows. If this happens to you again, stop and focus for a minute on something positive, picture the scene you are in as you would like it to appear, and if it helps, ask "your god" to remove the negativity and bring loving spirits to your side.

The things you described upon awakening are not all that uncommon, but keep in mind not only can we sometimes carry dream state imagery over in to our initial waking state, but that your negativity towards your experience can paint imagery of "spirits" that may be nothing more than my imagery of mouldy walls that were certainly never there except in my minds perception.

I hope that gives you something to work with

[jacquit]

Hi Nat, i read with intrest the account of your OBE, and how brave of you to experiment that way.
But it made me think about when you go over to spirit, how somw people find themselves in a dark place that isn't too nice, and usualy these would be people who haven't been very nice in life. And it gave me food for thought that perhaps that is what they are doing to themselves and it's just a matter of time for them to realise that the spirit world (just the same as this world) is what we make it ourself. hence, if we think positive we bring positivity, if we think peace, we bring peace etc;.
Jacqui

[Shera]

Thanks Nat,

When it does happen again,I'll try to do what you mentioned,sounds interesting.

Jacquit ,the comment on "usualy these would be people who haven't been very nice in life." I am not saying you applyed this to me,but I can asure everyone.I'm a "nice" person.

Thanks for the replys

[jacquit]

What i said was, spirit who find themselves in a dark place, i didn't liken it to anyone living, i don't consider an OBE to be the same as passing over, so you have no reason to asure me of your personality. In fact if i had thought that, i wouldn't have said it.
Jacqui

[Shera]

OK..so I miss read your post.


:roll:

Later

[pootohead]

hey guys,
I've had some wierd xperiences in my life. One of them I think was either a luicid dream,me and my freind tried medtitating one night,

for a little bit, after thinking, and concentrating vigorously I started to see little wight dots come flying at me, (which I later found out are called

your "inner stars") after the stars stopped coming at me I started to
shake madly ( or atleast that's what I thought), it felt as if i was on a boat on really choppy water.
Then it stopped a little bit and then I started to see what seemed like alot of t.vs coming at me with different pictures on them, then one flew at me and I noticed it was my game that my friend was playing and I told him what he was doing on the game. and he tried to do the same thing but with no luck. then that night i went to sleep and tried to do the same thing but i fell asleep ( I think) when i was asleepm i remember getting out of my body, but i remember getting out of it as if i've done it before. Then i walk to the front door and walked out side, my brother was there and so was my dad he was smoking a cigar, (which he stopped about 20 years ago) i jumped up a little bit and started to float then i tried flying, which is alot hareder then a thought i tried "swmming" in the air, but only getting a few inchis at a time. then i got back on the ground and ran a few feet. then as i was running i scraped my nuckles on my niehboors house, then my nuckles went through the wall. I pulled them out after what seemed about 40 minutes i heard my mom say "it's time to get up" then i walked back to my room and laid down on my phiysical body and woke up. ever scince then i have been fascinated with astral traveling. :P [/i]

[angeldust]

Hi am a newbie here , i was told about this last yesterday afternoon by a loverly lady......

My experiene am haven a lot of trouble with right now in regards to O,B,E is that i am asleep in dreamstate,when alll of a sudden i wake up, am looking at myself, im sure i am propley awake but yet my body feels detatched and i staring at my body thinking why!!! is it so hard for me to move , but then when i can move it it takes a while am very confused and heart is beating so so fast this confuses me for some time after , and i dredd falling a sleep again.......another thing with this also is am starting to scream, out my sons or daughters name,

Another time before that , i felt i had been falling , only this time whatever was happening to me, i was awaken by a loud popping noise in my ear, then my body had jolted back to reality,

Now i am getting the feeling throughout the day, that my body just starts to drift to the side as if am stepping out but i bring myself quickly back..........as i dont like it ......but am putting this bit down to needing to ground more........

any advice would be much appreciated,
much love and light , and protection,
xxxkerixxx.