[harmonious]

the body follows its own needs
it's impossible for a person to stay inactive

but there is a belief that we have a freewill
and can govern our lives

if a prediction comes true
it obviiously means your planning is futile

would it be wise to surrender to destiny

[astrologer50]

Your body follows what your mind and spirit tell it to do Yes i do beleive in Free Will, BUT we have all come to Earth to learn certain Lessons, with certain people at certain times cos that's how we ALL learn and in my opinion free will is this. You can do it now, or can do it later. So both ideas are correct but flawed....
THE "T R U T H" ABOUT ASTROLOGY

Astrology is humanity's oldest and most precise mindmap. It cannot, however, accurately predict events. THE STARS' & THE PLANETS HOLD HALF THE ANSWERS: YOU HOLD THE REST! Choices you make within the astrological environment determines what actually happens to you.

We are ALL FREE PEOPLE WITH FREE WILL. No rigid, fatalistic prediction can bind us. There is no astrological event so baleful that creativity, ?intelligence, and honest self appraisal cannot turn it to ?constructive uses and there is no configuration so glorious that selfishness and laziness cannot sour it!

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The purpose of modern predictive astrology is to help people make better choices, to clarify the nature of the psychological terrain through which they are passing, and to serve as their ally in the endless, unpredictable task of creating the future!

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Astrology CAN be mind boggling in its accuracy, but it can never consistently predict who is going to walk through the doors of your home, work or family environment. It doesn't naturally speak the language of outward, concrete events. The future that astrology foresees with such startling exactitude, doesn't always unfold in the world "out there." It unfolds between your ears and in your heart!

Astrology cannot predict that you're going to wreck your car, win the Lottery or Grand National. It cannot point out in advance the date of your marriage (although certain advantageous conditions CAN make romantic suggestions and overtones that would be fortuitous), your death, or the arrival of your new TV set.
That kind of astrological prophecy is ?misleading, bogus and unreliable.

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What modern predictive astrology can do is inform you in advance of the natural rhythms of your life and moods thereby helping you arrange your life (outward experiences) in the happiest, most harmonious and efficient manner!

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[Xiretsa]

Well, maybe bigbang is being repeated for infinite times.

[astrologer50]

What the hell is that supposed to mean. Don't you call planet Earth your home then???? LOL :lol:

[yelena]

Originally Posted by astrologer50

Your body follows what your mind and spirit tell it to do Yes i do beleive in Free Will, BUT we have all come to Earth to learn certain Lessons, with certain people at certain times cos that's how we ALL learn and in my opinion free will is this. You can do it now, or can do it later. So both ideas are correct but flawed....
THE "T R U T H" ABOUT ASTROLOGY
Astrology is humanity's oldest and most precise mindmap. It cannot, however, accurately predict events. THE STARS' & THE PLANETS HOLD HALF THE ANSWERS: YOU HOLD THE REST! Choices you make within the astrological environment determines what actually happens to you.
We are ALL FREE PEOPLE WITH FREE WILL. No rigid, fatalistic prediction can bind us. There is no astrological event so baleful that creativity, ?intelligence, and honest self appraisal cannot turn it to ?constructive uses and there is no configuration so glorious that selfishness and laziness cannot sour it!
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
The purpose of modern predictive astrology is to help people make better choices, to clarify the nature of the psychological terrain through which they are passing, and to serve as their ally in the endless, unpredictable task of creating the future!
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Astrology CAN be mind boggling in its accuracy, but it can never consistently predict who is going to walk through the doors of your home, work or family environment. It doesn't naturally speak the language of outward, concrete events. The future that astrology foresees with such startling exactitude, doesn't always unfold in the world "out there." It unfolds between your ears and in your heart!
Astrology cannot predict that you're going to wreck your car, win the Lottery or Grand National. It cannot point out in advance the date of your marriage (although certain advantageous conditions CAN make romantic suggestions and overtones that would be fortuitous), your death, or the arrival of your new TV set.
That kind of astrological prophecy is ?misleading, bogus and unreliable.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
What modern predictive astrology can do is inform you in advance of the natural rhythms of your life and moods thereby helping you arrange your life (outward experiences) in the happiest, most harmonious and efficient manner!
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Hi Astrologer,

Now to you: what would you do if you have steady pains, have nothing to relief the pains, have no money to pay that what helps you? What would you do if the pains are very different from all other pains, you can't work and you can't have even boyfriend (girlfriend)? I am searching cause for my neuralgias (3) since 19 years and since 7,5 years don't work. Nobody knows how painful are neuralgia's and nobody believes you. What then? Many people with neuralgia's try suicide because pains are worse than death.

That is part from my story? Where is here my FREE WILL?

Yelena

[astrologer50]

hi Yelena, sorry to hear of your pain and sad story. Yes you still have free will like you said some actually try suicide, but you have chose to stay and work through your pain and life challenges, so Congratulations hon........ We all have choices and decisions and we are all here to see the outcome of those choices and decisions in my opinion and it doesn't really matter whether we fail or succeed, cos if we fail we can usually have the Lesson repeated, either this lifetime or the next. An not agony Aunt just expressing my Spiritual Beliefs here luv..... LOL XXXX

[bozena555]

Hi to all,

My comment to this Topic:

1. I have steady chronic Neuralgia's and I don't have FREE WILL (it is about me) -since very long time!
2. When you get sick and nobody will help you, then you will remember me.
3. About other Forum: there is big discussion and many members, so I forgot my pains for a moment. I am not going back. I am finishing today with all Forum's.

Bozena

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by harmonious

the body follows its own needs
it's impossible for a person to stay inactive

but there is a belief that we have a freewill
and can govern our lives

if a prediction comes true
it obviiously means your planning is futile

would it be wise to surrender to destiny

Hi all, This seems to be rather controversial if not thorny issue for some people on this forum, so i will air my viewpoint just for the sake of clarity once more.

1. What is destiny? what is fate? well same thing in my opinion. These two little words simple means that they are the Lessons that your Soul/spirit has come down here to Learn about. What you planned for this journey, who you planned to have the Lessons with and what you are supposed to Learn. Again it doesn't really matter whether we fail or succeed because if it is something you have particularly chosen, then you will have the Lesson repeated until you do Learn. May be this lifetime or the next but eventually you will Learn. Because that's how we all grow and Learn things usually by making mistakes......

2. If a prediction comes true. Well Astrology is all about possibilities, trends and options, great it if comes true, great if it doesn't. No one should life their lives by what other people say may or may not happen. It like going through the motions and not wanting to make decisions which is futile, isn't it?

I always think that if doors open to you, opportunities present themselves, you are drawn to do, go and say something then that's the direciton you were meant to go down. If you keep having the door slammed in your face and keep hitting blocks, then that should be telling you something. It doesn't mean don't stop trying or give up, it just means try something different, or differently.......

Again, noone or nothing can 100% predict your future or what is going to happen to you. I don't understand why people think that everything is predestined or ordained or fate because what would be the point of Free Will then. If everything was mapped out for us and we all knew what was mapped out for us, I suspect there would be mass suicide because people wouldn't want to learn their Lessons and going through, illness, hard times, financial, material or family problems etc etc. We would be all like zombies. Just ****** rediculous really

So then, to Free Will. Yes I think the majority of us would believe we have choices, free will and decisions to make except for Yelena aka Bozena55 of course who is SO blinked in her own pain and suffering cant see the wood for the trees.

But again, if you are meant to be doing something, with someone, or whatever, then in MY opinion your free will is this, you can do it now or later, but eventually you will have the Lesson and learn what you have come here to Learn.

Hope this helps, perhaps we could have some more balances views on Free Will, Destiny and Fate and if you are going to post messages on this forum and expect a response, kindly put your sun sign, ascendant sign, and moon sign or (if brave enough) your birth data.

LOL

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by bozena555

Hi to all,

My comment to this Topic:

1. I have steady chronic Neuralgia's and I don't have FREE WILL (it is about me) -since very long time!
2. When you get sick and nobody will help you, then you will remember me.
3. About other Forum: there is big discussion and many members, so I forgot my pains for a moment. I am not going back. I am finishing today with all Forum's.

Bozena

Well Yelena aka Bozena

Do you honesty think anyone but yourself is interested in your self pity and neuralgia but you? Your free will to date seems to me that you have chosen to stay and fight this painful protracted condition so your Spirit/Soul can learn certain Lessons. But obviously you are not learning them with good grace and do understand Divine Timing. As you say some people with this condition even commit suicide, but hey you obviously a fighter to still be here with us......

When you are sick in this Country we do have a Health Service for everyone and there is help available to everyone, SO why the Drama Queen? Is this the only way you can be centre of attention?

Just for your information my choice every day is which painkillers I will take and am due to see a neurologist myself next week, but you don't here me moaning about this on this forum, do you???

Perhaps you just don't get the concept of Free Will or are bit slow on uptake, I do hope other more balanced people will make their veiws known.........

I have no idea what your spiritual path and Lessons are in this Life but be so embittered about life and your life is not helping you to go forward in any way shape or form is it??

Perhaps you could try some, Positive Mental Attitude and Positive thinking. The only person that is going to change your life and circumstances is you and once you make the mental change things may change for you (i really do hope so) because the Universe and your subconscious mind doesn't know the difference between positive and negative and will just fulfil your desires and wishes. Whatever you are focusing on (positive or negative) will be fulfilled, BUT if you keep focusing on whats missing or lacking in your life and putting thought and emotion behind it. Hey guess what you are going to create and perpetuate in your life???

LOL :roll: