[abbondanzieri]

Windswept,

i) if you're going to take account of 100,000 tiny effects, why aren't the positions of the doctors, midwifes etc taken into account when you're born. surely their gravitational effect, although tiny, should be recorded too?

ii) your reply has me confused. no matter how many times i read it i just don't get it. i'm getting the feeling you've just posted meaningless gobbledygook. please try and clarify.

Daniel,

quantum wave mechanics is indeed a complicated area of physics, but i'm not scared. go on, give me what you've got (or post a link).

cheers, m'dears

[omicron]

Originally Posted by Windswept

Hi guys,

My approach on Astrology is strictly scientific in relation to emotion, and by no means on a Phychic level (although the 2 can be combined)

Oh! they do have an effect. Their gravities pull our tides & in turn the water in our bodies.
And the apperent little effect is a consequence of Time, synchronisity & sequence...... If you shift one of these planets out of line, the Earth as we know it ends.

That's not true. Even if one planet ceases to exist, it won't affect the earth a tiny bit. There is evidence of that:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...to-planet.html

[Empress]

Windswept wrote:

Oh! they do have an effect. Their gravities pull our tides & in turn the water in our bodies.
And the apperent little effect is a consequence of Time, synchronisity & sequence...... If you shift one of these planets out of line, the Earth as we know it ends.


That's not true. Even if one planet ceases to exist, it won't affect the earth a tiny bit. There is evidence of that:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...to-planet.html

Omicron,

Windswept is right. Pluto never ceased to exist. Pluto existed long before it was discovered and will always exist. I tried to explain this to you in your Nostradamas thread. All they have done here is decided to call Pluto another name. They are now merely calling it an asteroid which has equal standing as a planet where astrology is concerned. There has been much protest and I think they will return Pluto's status as a Planet again in the future.

Kinda like when our government in the past claiming a surplus and no deficit when what they did was transfer trillions of dollars of debt into another category. Therefore no longer a criteria in the official assessment of deficit.

Or like when they post that unemployment is down. What they are really saying is that there are no new claims of unemployment. They are forgetting about the many who have been unemployed for a long time but no longer exist on any government records.

Omicron, trust me, Pluto is still there

:wink:

[abbondanzieri]

hi daniel, still not heard anything. please post a link. ta

[Daniel Brendan]

Sorry about that. Your guess is as good as mine in that area, seeing how I didn't go into advanced physics in high school. All I know is what my dad said about each planet having a wavelength the acts like a giant antenna. I'm certain there's more. He had many books on the subject with notes and highlighted areas, but I don't get a bit of it. All I know is that I can use his aspect matrix generator program to make my own amateur predictions and they tend to be accurate to a point.

[abbondanzieri]

ok. fair enough.

[astroguy24]

i definitely belive in astrology and feel it has really enhanced my life!

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by abbondanzieri

well done for answering the question without actually answering the question :roll:

i think minator's question is a valid one and the lack of any decent answer is very telling indeed

could it be that astrology doesn't work? :shock:

Astrology DOES work and is a form of psychology. If you want to know what makes you 'tick' and other people then study Astrology for yourself. Its all very well 'knocking' astrology when you don't know **** thing and being SO critical. Even going back to Egyptian times it worked, throughout history is has been studied and proved it works. Astrologers are not Astromoners and have little interest in alignment of planets...............
THE "T R U T H" ABOUT ASTROLOGY

Astrology is humanity's oldest and most precise mindmap. It cannot, however, accurately predict events. THE STARS' & THE PLANETS HOLD HALF THE ANSWERS: YOU HOLD THE REST! Choices you make within the astrological environment determines what actually happens to you.

We are ALL FREE PEOPLE WITH FREE WILL. No rigid, fatalistic prediction can bind us. There is no astrological event so baleful that creativity, ?intelligence, and honest self appraisal cannot turn it to ?constructive uses and there is no configuration so glorious that selfishness and laziness cannot sour it!

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The purpose of modern predictive astrology is to help people make better choices, to clarify the nature of the psychological terrain through which they are passing, and to serve as their ally in the endless, unpredictable task of creating the future!

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Astrology CAN be mind boggling in its accuracy, but it can never consistently predict who is going to walk through the doors of your home, work or family environment. It doesn't naturally speak the language of outward, concrete events. The future that astrology foresees with such startling exactitude, doesn't always unfold in the world "out there." It unfolds between your ears and in your heart!

Astrology cannot predict that you're going to wreck your car, win the Lottery or Grand National. It cannot point out in advance the date of your marriage (although certain advantageous conditions CAN make romantic suggestions and overtones that would be fortuitous), your death, or the arrival of your new TV set.
That kind of astrological prophecy is ?misleading, bogus and unreliable.

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What modern predictive astrology can do is inform you in advance of the natural rhythms of your life and moods thereby helping you arrange your life (outward experiences) in the happiest, most harmonious and efficient manner!

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[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by abbondanzieri

no! the effect they have is teeny tiny! the apparent little effect you mention is a really little effect. they may be big and massive, but they are soooo far away

how will the Earth (as we know it) end if one of the planets is shifted "out of line"? give me the physics - i'm not scared!

there is no conceivable method by which astrology works. period. (so there!)

THAT'S VERY BIGOTTED AND NARROW MINDED OF YOU. If you have such strong views I suggest you study it for 5-10years and then come back and say there's nothing in it!!!

LOL :lol:

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by minator

How is it that planets and stars as massive as they are that have very little if any affect on our planet how would they have an affect on us?

Why are two Astrologers completely opposite with their readings. Surely this thing that has been trusted for centuries canbe been all done on a hunch can it?

So I ask how does Astrology work? What is it that effects us that the Astrologers can read?

Trying studying it yourself hon. I am a Professional Astrologer, Public Speaker and Teacher and guest lecture on cruise ships. Astrologers are like mediums, some can drive cars, some can drive formula one racing cars, as in any industry you will get variations.........

A Natal chart is calculated with, time of birth, date of birth, nearest town Latitude and Longitude. All quite mathematical but these days can be done at the push of a computer button. There are a few different House systems involved, usually Equal House, Placidus, Koch, Pandannis. I teach the oldest and most reliable 'Equal' house system.

Think of a circle 360' divide by 12, each segment has 30'. These segments are called houses, each house has a different meaning, but unilateral nontheless, through whatever 'house system' you study or prefer.

Your 10 Planets could be any in one of these 12 houses, so thats 144 permutations there...... A Natal chart is as individual as a 'fingerprint' unique to you with the data you supply to an Astrologer. Problem being unless you were born in Scotland or were a twin, most people dont know their Time of Birth. A good astrologer can ask questions to 'rectify' this problem though.

You can get lots of free info off the web, try Astro.com for calculations and cafeastrology for interpretations. Hope this helps
LOL